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Hi Charles,

 

that is an M15 Bluse. The field grey Waffenrock for Flügeladjutanten did not necessarily have breast pockets; in fact as per regulations did not have them. 

Regards

Glenn

 

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1 hour ago, Glenn J said:

Hi Charles,

 

that is an M15 Bluse. The field grey Waffenrock for Flügeladjutanten did not necessarily have breast pockets; in fact as per regulations did not have them. 

Regards

Glenn

 

Sorry if I was unclear. Yes, the m16 tunic is correct. I was wondering about the 1910 tunic. Castell has no breast pockets but Leonrod doesE177A69E-80D2-4FB7-B37D-3FCE6230988D.thumb.jpeg.6c56f5123bb1e6f9135b166dc2c01d88.jpeg29C05F9B-9231-42AB-9CAC-D02E01172197.thumb.jpeg.1a2b21207cda33eb85351345cd1d7c09.jpeg29C05F9B-9231-42AB-9CAC-D02E01172197.thumb.jpeg.1a2b21207cda33eb85351345cd1d7c09.jpeg

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Charles,

maybe I was unclear; per regulations the 1910 tunic for Flügeladjutants should NOT have breast pockets. However, I should not imagine anyone lost any sleep about such a transgression!

Regards

Glenn

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Charles,

In response to your various e-mails and posts, as Glenn pointed out, the M 1910 for Flügeladjutanten did not have breast pockets - see enclosed scans, particularly plate 9, and the further pic from the tunic showing a detail not evident from the ones on Helmut's site.

Castell-Castell probably (and correctly) continued wearing this tunic also after his 1918 promotion to general rank. which as Glenn notes, did not come with a promotion to Generaladjutant. 

I once owned this piece and never felt uncomfortable with it.

Sandro

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Hi Sandro,

that’s excellent literature for the adjutant tunic. I have no doubt about the tunic, I’m just asking about the differences between it and the Leonrod. Are the tabs on Castell of the 1915 pattern?

 

I never realized those Saxon tabs were exclusively for Saxon Generaladjutant 

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So, if that’s Graf Castell then he was awarded the EKI

On 10/07/2012 at 03:07, GdC26 said:

 

 

Thanks Dave, I stand corrected on the first, and must have missed the second.

 

Any sign von Castell-Castell was awarded an EK 1, as Charles has suggested?

 

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On 08/07/2012 at 04:22, arb said:

Sandro,

 

He was born 12.05.1868 in Castell (Unterfranken) and died 08.07.1939 in Hochburg-Ach. He was married to Amalie Prinzessin zu Löwenstein-Wertheim-Freudenberg. After attending Gymnasium, he voluntarily joined the 1. Ulan. R. as a Fähnrich on 19.08.1886. He became Adjutant of the IV. Armee Insp. on 19.09.1900. He was promoted Oberst on 11.10.1914 and Gen. Maj. in 1918 (sorry, no exact date).

 

Andy

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I believe this last man Obst [Johann] Maximilian [Carl] Freiherr v u z Bodman, a FlüAdj of Ludwig III towards the latter part of the war. he served with bayr 3 FAR and as Mj with bayr 9 FAR. Castell and him looked alike and it can be tricky from afar. The second pic belonged to "HK" would like to credit him and ask him for permission to use.

 

In the Alamy group pic with Ludwig III, third man from right with hands on shoulders of little boy was Walther v Walderstötten.

 

the other three of the four men were: (1) Generalstabsarzt Ritter v Seydel, (3) Nagel zu Aichberg and (4) Walther v Walderstötten and between (3) and (4) was Oberstallsmeister v Leonrod.

 

Elwyn

 

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