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Naval officers would all carry a branch device in gold wire above the tapes, Officials would carry a silver eagle with different "pips" or waves to denote their branch.

It is impossible to tell for sure which branch the guy in your photo belongs to.

For your information, please note these images:

 

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​Very nice Odulf!

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A very nice and interesting early photo of a Bosun's Mate wearing the cap tally "Segelschulschiff Gorch Fock".

As we have seen in earlier posts in this topic, the black-white-red roundel replaced the Weimar eagle oval in March 1933, and the German Wehrmacht eagle was introduced in March 1934. This picture dates from exactly this period, the Sailing Training Ship Gorch Fock was commissioned in June 1933.

Also interesting to note that this guy is shown with the Bosun's Call in his mouth, but dangling from this call is another Pfeife.

The card bears the postmark Stralsund 19.12.39 and the Feldpost stamp of "Kommando 7. Schiffsstmmabteilung"

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Hi,

 

 

Schiffsstammabteilung 12?

 

 

 

 

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​Hello Martin!

 

What do you think Martin!

 

Best regards,Morten.

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Hi Martin!

 

Do you also think these is Schiffsstamabteilung 12?

 

Best,Morten.

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An fascinating named portrait of a sailor wearing the cap tally Zestörer Max Schultz. Obviously the picture was taken in Hamburg and sent 26th November 1939.

The new general tally "Kriegsmarine" was introduced when hostilities started, on 1 September 1939. Nearly 3 months after this photo was sent, the destroyer "Max Schultz" (Pennant No. Z3) was lost on the Dogger Bank with all hands (308 men) on 22 February 1940. She was commissioned three years earlier, on 8 April 1937.

I wonder if this sailor, Paul Bernhard, was amongst the men who lost their lives on that cold night when their ship broke in two after striking a British mine and sank within a minute.

 

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A nice early portrait of a sailor, wearing the tally Schifsstammdivision der Nordsee, dated "Wilhelmshaven, 20.6.1934"

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Hello Edgar!

 

 

I agree with Martin.Your new photos is Super.Thanks for sharing wit us!

 

 

Best from Norway,Morten.

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Hello Edgar and Martin!

 

Here is one of my newest Mützenband Photo.

VORPOSTENFLOTILE.

He was a radiooperator in Küstenartilleri in North of Trøndelag in Norway at the end of the war.

Has seen picture of him with Mützenband name;Kriegsmarine,Marineartileriabteilung... and Marinenachnichtenstelle Süd.

 

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All the best,Morten.

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Interesting portrait Morten, also because the badge of rank (left sleeve) shows him to be an "Unteroffizierdiensttuer". He is a professional (old) hand, and not a conscript.

He is wearing the triple chevron of an Oberstabsmatrose (later to be called Hauptgefreiter), a grade for "overaged" lower rates  who could not pass to NCO rate (Maat) in the peace time system of promitions. But he is wearing the 4 cm horizontal gold tape below the chevrons, indicating that he is Acting Maat; in this case a Funkmaat (Signals NCO). Not uncommon after the war broke out and the need for experienced NCOs increased. This would date the portrait around September 1939.ff

 

Hanging from the left shoulder, the Schützenschnur, the lanyard for marksmanship.

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Another very nice photo Morten and an equally nice description by Edgar.

Thanks,Martin.

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Hello!

 

 

Thanks Edgar for this great extra information.Thanks Martin for your comment!

 

 

Alll the best,Morten.

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Hello Edgar and Martin!

 

Here is one of my newest Mützenband Photo.

VORPOSTENFLOTILE.

He was a radiooperator in Küstenartilleri in North of Trøndelag in Norway at the end of the war.

Has seen picture of him with Mützenband name;Kriegsmarine,Marineartileriabteilung... and Marinenachnichtenstelle Süd.

 

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All the best,Morten.

​The name is Kurt Werner!

 

 

Best,Morten.

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Two new entries:

Marineflugabwehrschule (Naval Anti-Aircraft School)

Marineunteroffizierlehrabteilung (Naval NCO Taining Unit), stationed in Kiel.

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Hello Edgar!

 

 

Super new addition you have there.Thanks for sharing with us and congrats with  these new photos!

 

 

Best,Morten.

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Thanks Morten, I like these tallies of shore based establishments and units, but it is not easy to define their period of use.

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The cap tally Torpedoschulflottille.

This torpedoboat training flottilla was stationed in Kiel-Mürwik with the old Torpedoboats"G7", "G8", "G10", "G11" built in 1911-1912.

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The cover of the Kriegsmarine 1937 Annual, showing the tally Minensuchhalbflottille (Mine sweeper half flottilla)

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Two group photos of the 3. Kompanie, II. Schiffsstammabteilung (Stralsund), with the Company Commander Kapitänleutnant (E) Bürkler. He can be recognised as an "Ergänzungsoffizier" by the gilt oval rope border around the five pointed star above his gold tapes. This oval was made obsolete from 20-09-1938.

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3.II Schiffsstammabtelung der Ostsee (4) Kplt(E) Bürkler.jpg

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Hello Edgar!

You have so plenty of knowledge that i`m envious.You always have additional information when we post pictures.This inspiring for collecting and this i really appreciate.You should start  Forum for Documents and Pictures.Your last posting is very nice with loth of information.

 

 

Best from Norway,Morten.

 

 

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The front cover of the German illustrated weekly magazine "Der Rundblick" (No.44 - 29 Oct. 1939) shows a photo of a Maat (Leading Seaman) of Gunther Priens U47 surrounded by BDM girls from Berlin. Prien himself was decorated by Hitler in person with the Knights Cross of the Iron Cross, and all of his men received the Iron Cross 2nd Class for the heroic action of sinking the British battleship H.M.S. Royal Oak in Scapa Flow on 14 Oct. 1939. As U47 was one of the boats of the (7th) U Boat Flottila Wegener, stationed in Kiel, all men dresssed as sailors wore the cap tally Unterseebootsflottille Wegener, soon to be replaced by the general Kriegsmarine tally. Prien and his crew received a hero's welcome in Berlin where thousands of spectators lined the streets to cheer the convoy of limousines on their way from the airport to the Hotel Kaiserhof. In the afternoon the men were received by Hitler in his Neue Reichskanzlei.

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