JapanX Posted August 6, 2012 Take a look at this gorgeous veteran tie with pin in the form of Otsu badge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 6, 2012 Reverse inscription Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 6, 2012 This one was sold recently at eBay for almost $200 I wonder how much the original Otsu could cost nowadays ... Here comes one of mine Obverse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Interestingly, many years ago I saw the similar veteran tie but with pin in the form of Submarine badge!!! (by the way, seller described it as "Japanese Naval submarine school merit badge"... Presumably ) Here it is Edited August 6, 2012 by JapanX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 6, 2012 Obverse close up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 6, 2012 Reverse close up (same style of inscription!!!) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaigunair Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Neat post. An advanced medal collector whom I really respect and has provided invaluable source info on various awards and medals once commented to me that he felt the bukosho example I owned could be fake because of a lack of quality in the die. It really did concern me once he pointed it out. Any thoughts? One the flip side, I've been lucky enough to know someone who had several examples of this medal in different classes, and it was his opinon that the dies were being used and worn down...die marks in the back were one way he felt he could identify period buko-sho badges. I guess the question is, if the buko-chosho was a military award, is they any info on where it was made? Similarly, if it was made by the normal factory that made other awards, should the quality of the buko-sho badges, even the 2nd class, be better? Edited August 8, 2012 by kaigunair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 Neat post. An advanced medal collector whom I really respect and has provided invaluable source info on various awards and medals once commented to me that he felt the bukosho example I owned could be fake because of a lack of quality in the die. It really did concern me once he pointed it out. Any thoughts? Well, could you show your piece? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) One the flip side, I've been lucky enough to know someone who had several examples of this medal in different classes, and it was his opinon that the dies were being used and worn down...die marks in the back were one way he felt he could identify period buko-sho badges. Most likely there were several different manufacturers ;) Edited August 9, 2012 by JapanX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 ... is they any info on where it was made? To my knowledge - no info. Similarly, if it was made by the normal factory that made other awards, should the quality of the buko-sho badges, even the 2nd class, be better? I think the quality of 1944/1945 buko-sho badges is completely in line with quality of others japanese badges from same time period. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 Different dies or different manufacturers? Let`s examine several 2nd class specimens Obverse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 Close up of obverse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 Another one. Obverse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 Famous slack-baked reverse ;) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 The last one (with flat reverse) Obverse Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 Now please take a look at this compilation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JapanX Posted August 9, 2012 (edited) Kanji style obviously is different. I am afraid it`s not the wearing-out of dies. It`s simply different dies Regards, Nick Edited August 9, 2012 by JapanX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites