Leclerc Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Dear friends, I'm looking for a Cross of St. George, and the other day I stepped over the following one: http://i748.photobuc...elics/a4771.jpg http://i748.photobuc...elics/a4772.jpg I'm not an expert in these medals and the probability to buy a fake is very important. Therefore, I'd be very grateful for your help. I know the "XM" punch means it's a "cheap" 1916/1917 variant made of "yellow metal" instead of gold. But as far as I know, only 20,000 2nd class crosses made of yellow metal were produced, and they have a s/n from 65,031 to 85,030. So my question is, how is it possible that this one has the s/n 206,446? I can't imagine a forger would be so dumb and make such a mistake. Do you have an explanation for this? If it's an original, what would it be worth? Then concerning an other Cross. of St. George: According to the seller, this original one was awarded during the Russian civil war and is made of silver. Do you agree? If it's an original, what would it be worth? Thank you very much for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Two crosses - fake ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclerc Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 Hi Igor and thank you for your opinion. Could you please give me some explanation why you think they are fakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 You can see hier http://medalirus.ru/georgievskie-kresty/gk-1917-2.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclerc Posted October 5, 2012 Author Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ok, new try... what do you think of this one? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted October 5, 2012 Share Posted October 5, 2012 Like original, but need big pictures ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclerc Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Thank you Igor, I will try to post bigger ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclerc Posted October 8, 2012 Author Share Posted October 8, 2012 Unfortunately, the seller says his camera doesn't allow him to take bigger pictures that are not blurred. But did you try to click on the pictures above? They get a bit bigger. Here are two more of the same cross. Thank you very much for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Seller - liar, don't trust and don't buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) Unfortunately, the seller says his camera doesn't allow him to take bigger pictures that are not blurred. I cannot comment on the cross, I simply don't have the required experience in Imperial Russian awards... But as Igor suggests, you may want to be a bit weary of a seller making such a statement... I can take better pictures with my cheap cell phone! Considering the price one would pay for a real Cross of St George with original mount, you'd think the seller would make an effort to accomodate a potential buyer's curiosity wouldn't you? CAVEAT EMPTOR! (= FAIS GAFFE!) Edited October 9, 2012 by TacHel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Ostapenko Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 http://sammler.ru/index.php?showtopic=117854 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leclerc Posted October 9, 2012 Author Share Posted October 9, 2012 (edited) Thank you very much Igor and François. You are absolutely right, this seller is not very trustworthy. Unfortunately, I do not speak Russian and the Google translator tells me strange things when I want it to translate the forum you posted, Igor. As far as I understand what the translator tries to tell me, one of the anwers says it is a fake, right? Is there a trustworthy seller of Crosses of St. George with reasonable prices you can recommend? CAVEAT EMPTOR! (= FAIS GAFFE!) Edited October 9, 2012 by Leclerc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacHel Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Correct, the comment on the Russian forum is that both the cross and mount are fakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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