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Hello Chris,

would you show me the backside of the silver medal, with a better foto of the eyelet ?

The engraver was Ries, not Reis. The medals with the big portrait are all Ries-medals, if they are original :whistle:

Regards Andreas

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Hello everybody, I have just seen the topic. Since I want to make a few additions.
Here is a Ries, type 2b in gold

Best regards

Gtm xxxx 004.JPG

Gtm xxxx VSRS SDA.jpg



and another type 1d in gold:

1TM gold 49 71.jpg

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Very interesting photo. At the 15th IR, 12 soldiers received the TM before May 16, 1915.
However, different award dates are entered in the ranking lists.

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29 minutes ago, spolei said:

Very interesting photo. At the 15th IR, 12 soldiers received the TM before May 16, 1915.
However, different award dates are entered in the ranking lists.

Agreed, but for some guys I find 2 or even 3 dates for some awards... I assume all had it approved on different dates but the physical handing out was done at a ceremony

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There are different dates for the medal for bravery. Act date, day of award, day of publication in the prescription sheet. The soldier was then honored on such occasions.

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9 hours ago, spolei said:

There are different dates for the medal for bravery. Act date, day of award, day of publication in the prescription sheet. The soldier was then honored on such occasions.

It is possible that especially this early in the war the old "You have been awarded the medal, here is the ribbon, the actual medal will be presented at a later date" could already have been in play. This could have been for 2 reasons... supply ... and the fact that the award was considered high enough that the presentation would be carried out by a high authority, and out of the line when the regiment could be assembeled for a ceremony...

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I would make a little correction here. The three importent 
different dates are: 

1st: day of deed, 
2nd: approval by the king and 
3rd: Issuing date of the certificate
In the ordinance sheet of the Ministry of War, the date of the act 
is given as a standard in connection with the name.
The reason for this is that the award is always made retrospectively
to the date of the crime, so that the Benefit supplement are not 
reduced by delayed Commission decisions. The allowance always begins 
on the day of the deed.

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Anlage 4 Nachweis aller Verleihungen in den VOBl gmic.jpg

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