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Another great medal bar of a German serving in Finland. The extraordinary thing of the medal bar might be that it is unique in a special way: Combination of Finnish medals with the Pour le Merite for NCOs (The Golden Military Merit Cross - Militär-Verdienstkreuz für Unteroffiziere und Mannschaften).

Also the EK1 is existing. Kriegsstammrolle, not to forget :)

The name is known...a guy who got very old.

Have fun.

Mikko

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Woaaahhh! Even with colonial service!! Would you maybe show more of this great group??

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He should be easy to id , but I dont have the book about Golden Merit Crosses , could not be more than one who served in Colonial and Finland !!

Christer

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:blush:

Just saw the Kriegstammrolle ..... Pleaaaaaase Mikko , who is it ?

I have spent some hours in the Swedish War Archive searching for Swedish soldiers with Finnish awards , puh I

Thank god they are typed (most) and not in scary handwritten old German like Rick has to deal with :whistle:

Right know I going through 1st class medals with Red Cross 1918 ( only 20 awarded to Swedes) would I like a document ?

Hmm , let me think ......

YES ! :cheeky:

Christer

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I have never been able to pin this bar to one person. Best suspects are KL:

(T) Georg Fett PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 16.7.15 a.D.22.11.19 Born 14.1.86 1931 Essen Staff?

(A) Gustav Wehr PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 10.8.15 a.D. 22.11.19 Born 27.8.861931 Essen Ship Hindenburg

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hi guys i am just in finland. as far as i remember the name is warnat or warwat. more when i am back from suomi

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hi guys i am just in finland. as far as i remember the name is warnat or warwat. more when i am back from suomi

Wilhelm Warnat, Offizier - Stellvertreter, Reserve - Infanterie - Regiment Nr. 255

awarded 26.03.1918, current number 80 from the recipients award list

Regards

Andreas

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I have never been able to pin this bar to one person. Best suspects are KL:

(T) Georg Fett PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 16.7.15 a.D.22.11.19 Born 14.1.86 1931 Essen Staff?

(A) Gustav Wehr PCO4, EK1, HH 6.4.04 10.8.15 a.D. 22.11.19 Born 27.8.861931 Essen Ship Hindenburg

Paul

I really like this ribbon bar.:) I assume the reverse is done in black/navy blue to signify Marine?

Best wishes

Matt

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Wow, that MVK group is fantastic. I have a couple of nice Schnallen with Finnish awards, but they are in storage. Once I have finished my move, I will post scans of them.

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Hello,

just came from holiday and saw the questions concerning the medal bar with the MVK. Here are some more pics and yes...the name is Wilhelm Warnat.

Have fun.

Mikko

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I was going thru some stuff and came across this one that I forgot I had.

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Very impressive Don. I like it very much. I don't remember you could wear both crosses from the same order. I learn everyday thanks

Christophe

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Always when I visit Helsinki and I am standing in front of the White Cathedral (created after the plans of the German architekt Engel) I get goose bumps when I remind myself of these old picture of German troops passing the White Cathedral when celebrating the liberty and freedom of Finland and the overcome of the red disease.

Cheers

Mikko

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keep them coming!!! :-)

I am fairly sure I showed this group of ribbon bars before:

One 1930ies tab back style - the baltic cross ribbon missing and one 1957 model ribbon bar.

I wonder how this guy managed to get nothing in WW2 but was still in a kind of uniformed service in the late 50ies...

Lots of greetings

Daniel

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Bonjour,

  • 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK-II,

  • Ostmedaille,
  • Ehrenkreuz des Weltkrieges 1914-1918 mit Schwertern,
  • Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 13 März 1938,
  • Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1 Oktober 1938 mit Spange «Prager Burg»,

  • Slowakia Order ???

He won : Finnische Orden des Freiheitskreuz 1. kl mit Schwertern (16 juin 1942),

  • Finnische Orden des Freiheitskreuz 1. kl mit Stern u. Eichenlaub (6 juillet 1943).

The finnish ribbon is 3rd or 4th Class on this order,

Unknow ribbon,

The last ribbon is unknow, but is commander class.

Add Werner Mummert served in Sächsische Karabinier Rgt Nr 2 in WWI.

  • Finnische Orden des Freiheitskreuz 4. kl mit Schwertern (17 août 1918),

  • Finnische Medaille zur Erinnerung an den Freiheitskrieg 1918. ???

Crdl

Thierry

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Yer Thierry, the sixth ribbon seems to be the War Victory Cross Order from Slowakia, but I've never seen any reference about this order awarded to Steiner.

Best regards.

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Could the 8th ribbon be the Finnish "Skyddskårens förtjänstkors"?

It was awarded to foreigners...

/Michael

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Not really... the book "Finlands Utmärkelsetecken" by Wrede doesn't say why it was awarded - he just describes what it looks like.

Here is a picture:

http://www.medalj.nu/ribbon_info.asp?build=&showgroups=M-M/100&visitor=%7B30E706AB-2FC9-4537-909C-D2412C7EDEC9%7D&listmode=0&medal=%7B1E3DD89D-33D2-48CF-B07D-E47244DC49BB%7D

/Michael

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Bonjour,

The last ribbon maybe Hungarian order of Merit, Commander class.

Thierry

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Hello collector-friends,

is someone of you familiar with a guy named Erich Beschke? He received the Finnish Liberty cross 2nd class in 1918. At that time he was a Hauptmann. Later on he also received the Finnish Medal of Liberation.

In which unit did he serve? What was his CV? Why did he receive the 2nd class of the Liberty cross? Was he a commander of a unit in the Finnish Liberation war?

Your help appreciated.

Detlef

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Hello collector-friends,

is someone of you familiar with a guy named Erich Beschke? He received the Finnish Liberty cross 2nd class in 1918. At that time he was a Hauptmann. Later on he also received the Finnish Medal of Liberation.

In which unit did he serve? What was his CV? Why did he receive the 2nd class of the Liberty cross? Was he a commander of a unit in the Finnish Liberation war?

Your help appreciated.

Detlef

Erich Beschke born in Magdeburg Aug 3rd 1878 , first in service Oct 1st 1904

He was with 2 Bayr Feld Art Rgt 1914- 1915 , later in 1918 Bayr Gebirgs Kanon Batt 07

EK II , BMVO IV x , BMVO IV Mkr x 1918 Luitpold Medal, Austria MVK mKd June 23rd 1918, Finnish Liberty Cross 2nd class May 28 1918 If I read right he was OberLt dR in may 1918 wich explains why he got a second class instead of a more normal third class.

Christer

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