JapanX Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 ...and another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JapanX Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Mint "voenkomat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JapanX Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Gee-up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Gaumann Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 Pretty obvious one Yes, the obvious ones I can recognize. But when it comes to leaves or berries, letter fonts, the edges and the texture(?) of the obverse I can only guess without somebody pointing out the faults.The ring is generally the only part that I can recognize as good or dubious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Gaumann Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share Posted August 7, 2013 I like this one, do you?The front looks very strong, the reverse is maybe a bit soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 Looks like ok Belgrade from 1947-1948. So called "shovel" variant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Gaumann Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 Thanks! While I'd prefer a T1 I think I could live with this Type.Trouble is the seller is, at the moment, not accepting returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 But "shovel" is more rare than first type (which was issued even in 1946) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Gaumann Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 But "shovel" is more rare than first type (which was issued even in 1946) I know. I see all those 'speculators' on Aukro with their Shovel Braverys and CSMs and silver labour medals priced at twice the usual price just because they are "rare". I don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) I don't buy it Good. Cause I don't sell anything. Shovel is simply more rare ... It's a fact! ;) Edited August 8, 2013 by JapanX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 A question that crosses all collecting fields... at which point does "earlier model and slightly more sought after" become "Rare and worth much more" ? best Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 A question that crosses all collecting fields... at which point does "earlier model and slightly more sought after" become "Rare and worth much more" ? best Chris When people are willing to pay more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Collins Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 At that point that someone is willing to pay more for it. These items we collect are, in cold reality, only worth their smelt value. Which, essentially, means a Belgrade or Odessa is worth about 3 cents. The remaining "worth" (value) of an award is what we're willing to pay above and beyond the smelt value. Of course a Lenin will be worth more due to gold and platinum content, but the smelt value is nowhere near the collector value of the award. And, when you get right down to it, the "market" even decides the smelt value. Gold, after all, is just a rock that we've decided is worth a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I see you guys like to philosophize ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Collins Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Well Nick, yeah, I guess... philosophizing makes me feel better when parts of my collection seem to go down in value... helps me hold on because I know that, if I let things run full circle, they'll be back up in value... if I wait long enough... I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Circle?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Collins Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Ok, ok, you caught me writing in the vernacular. What I mean is that, at times, certain items seem to fall out of favour with collectors or, perhaps, because of what they are, are just not what collectors are looking for at that moment in time... even though they may be quite rare. But, often enough, if you wait awhile and hold on to what you have, you may find the collector market turns (circle) in your favour. I found this to be true regarding the Mongolian end of my collection. When I began, no one seemed to want or particularly care about Mongolian items. Boy, did that change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JapanX Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 What I meant by "Circle?! + beautiful (special collectors issue ) smiley" is that this "for awhile" might be slowly lowering line rather than circle ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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