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Burned Below The Waterline: An Ushakov/"American" Group


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Detecting a pattern of behaviour here? The horrific risks involved in inshore minesweeping under contaant enemy fire?

And, oh yes... that casual mention of the very early AMERICAN award he recieved at some unspecified time between his Red Banner and the Ushakov Medal?

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What can one say about "normal" award of a U.S. Navy Distinguished Service Medal? "Normally" presented to ... Admirals? :Cat-Scratch::o Apparently the Soviet Comraids who were handed random selections of U.S. awards to distribute at their whim thought a "medal" was... a MEDAL! :whistle:

Citation for Kochetkov's very nice "thin" OPW2

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I saw the American medal entitled in the awards summary of 1947. It was an amazing and lovely group. It was interesting that he was wounded badly in the stomach by a bomb shell in the summer ( surviving a gut wound in a Soviet hospital means this guy was made of cast iron I reckon) and then acted bravely in combat against the Finnish shore batteries .......

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No wonder I felt that this group looks vaguely familar ...

11 years is a looooooong time ;)

http://soviet-awards.com/forum/soviet-military-awards/researchers-corner/researched-award-groups/592-petr-korneevich-kochetkov.html

By the way according to Ed Maier only 22 Navy DSM's were awarded to Soviets.

According to OMSA article only 20 (Army?) DSM's were awarded to Soviets.

Dave Danner wrote in this thread http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/8433-us-army-decorations-awarded-to-red-army-personnel-in-world-war-ii/ (post #15) that "During World War Two, the Army awarded approximately 9 DSMs to lieutenant colonels, 2 to majors and 2 to enlisted".

So how many DSMs (Army and Navy) were issued?

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Yeah, the same groups keeping circling around no matter what. We've been able to document (paper cataalogs folks, Eternal Paper) British Napoleonic groups continuously from the 1870s.

Some day that will be true of groups like this too. Assuming western civilization still exists....

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I wonder how many Soviets who did something during the war that led to their being given recognition by Western states, survived Stalin's post-war purges? Stalin's paranoia was a bad thing to be on the wrong side of, and being one of the few Soviets to be awarded a prestigious award might have could have resulted in a death sentence, deportation to the east and years of hard labor, or both.

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Stalin's paranoia was a bad thing to be on the wrong side of, and being one of the few Soviets to be awarded a prestigious award might have could have resulted in a death sentence, deportation to the east and years of hard labor, or both.

I think most of them survived since there were no large-scale

.... Stalin's post-war purges

At least among military personal ;)

Year/Convicted/Executed

1945

126000

10600

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1946

105580

2270

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1947

67590

900

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1948

68380

None

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1949

72520

None

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1950

59350

470

;)

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Hey! You used to live right here in the heart of Traveling Museum country and could never get you to visit. Now.....

:P

I know... I was living under an oppressed state then. I have since "unstrapped" myself of that burden!

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