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    The amount of mint finished PAB's you have Jan has always amazed me jumping

    Now theory in motion--The wide back pin Jan just showed, ! Now check out the hinge and needle on the maker mark 4, cased EK1 Detlev offered this week....interesting to say the least...

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    Von Luger !

    I know about that theory . High Resulution scans of this "wide" pin PAB was sent to Frank H. for 3-4 weeks ago . And I`m open for all theories about the makers of this design PAB . But I beleive that it was more than one maker that used this design

    Here is a "KWM" Karl Wurster , Markneukirchen made PAB in Silver . It looks like Tombac , But I beleive that it is a zinc PAB with some kind of Copper coating before badge is Silvered . Can they have done this to get a better and longer preserved Silver finish ? Badge is to heavy to be "kupal" and it has no sign to the"sandwich" one sides .

    Jan Arne

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    Gentlemen,

    The AWS posted in number 74 and 75 deserves futher discussion. IMO, it is a well documented fake. There are many accepted bronze types out there and they are accepted for their unique style of hinge/crimp and finish. This one shows none of what is accepted as good for this maker.

    Chet

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    How many PAB cut outs do you have now Don

    also Jan do you have any cut outs...

    IMO its ok to show duplicate badges here-with the difference in wear and material ect, you tend to see many varients of the same badge and also I never get tired at looking and comparing PAB's

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    Hi Von Luger !

    Sorry ! But I dont have any PAB`s with cutout grass area .

    Only with cutout in swaz .

    But here is a Hollow PAB in Silver that not is seen so often , it almost looks like the back of badge is Silvered .

    Jacques ! Very very nice numbered PAB .

    Jan Arne

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