sturm Posted September 18, 2013 Author Posted September 18, 2013 Exactly! "So called" ... Thanks a lot! Appreciate it! conclusion: My medal is an Medal for Bravery Ahmed Shah with the Date 1916. right!? rene
JapanX Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Rene, this medal definitely was issued in 1916 during reign of Ahmed Shah. But the correct name of this medal is still unknown to us ...
paul wood Posted September 18, 2013 Posted September 18, 2013 Rabino calls it a Bravery Medal, he certainly knew his coins and marine mammals (seals) but whether he was so hot on medals I am not surePaul
sturm Posted September 19, 2013 Author Posted September 19, 2013 Thank you all for your help! best greetings rene
Auseklis Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 Dear Friends, interesting reading, even after 5 years, since I just obtained one of these and doing some research. The German designation for this medal is "Silver Military Merit Medal for Foreigners" ( silberne Militär-Verdienstmedaille für Ausländer ). Is the year on my medal 1320? I'm not so good with arabic numerals... regards Arne
1812 Overture Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 09/10/2018 at 02:25, Auseklis said: Dear Friends, interesting reading, even after 5 years, since I just obtained one of these and doing some research. The German designation for this medal is "Silver Military Merit Medal for Foreigners" ( silberne Militär-Verdienstmedaille für Ausländer ). Is the year on my medal 1320? I'm not so good with arabic numerals... regards Arne Why is the front and back of your medal opposite? According to one of my Ottoman Imdias medals, the above figure in Arabic means 1333, which is the Gregorian calendar in 1914, so you can follow this calculation. But I feel that this one of you is in the period of the Pahlavi Dynasty, pay attention to the crown. https://baike.baidu.com/item/巴列维王朝/1187234?fromtitle=巴列维&fromid=4489575&fr=aladdin Introduction to the Pahlavi dynasty, pay attention to the picture on the right
Auseklis Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Thanks for your reply on my question. Farsi has a different numeral system, as I understand it. Please take a look here to see, how I came to 1320. https://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/persian.htm Also the year you calculated is after the Islamic Lunar Calendar, while the medal is dated in Iranian Solar Calendar. That would be 1941 for 1320 or 1954 for 1333. Why is the front and back of my medal opposite? Good question, I would like to know too. Edited October 10, 2018 by Auseklis
paul wood Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 It is sh1320 ad 1941an early Pahlavi issue. Paul
Auseklis Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 Thanks Paul! So I got it all right. Would be interesting to know, how many were awarded to Wehrmacht personel in 1941.
oamotme Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 Gentlemen, The reverse text appears to read from the bottom, 'Al Sultan Muzzafer Al Deen Shah Qajar". Regards, Owain
Auseklis Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 Thanks oamotme. That was the Shah until 1907. I wonder why his name appears on a medal dated 1941?
paul wood Posted October 11, 2018 Posted October 11, 2018 1320 is 1901 in lunar hejira so it would be ok for muzaffar. I dont think the solar callender wad introduced until the pahlavi era. Paul
Dr Ali Kolahdooz Posted May 9, 2020 Posted May 9, 2020 The So called Medal in fact is a coin. Belongs to Muzzafar Aldin Shah(qajar dynasty). The value is 5000 dinars. Made of sliver and the year is 1320 Hijri (lunar). It wasn't really a medal. It possibly was a gift from an official or royal member to another person. In Iranian/Persian culture gifting money has been a tradition for many centuries. Some people then liked the idea of changing the coin to a medal like many other available examples. The Solar calendar was introduced by Pahlavi Dynasty. https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/pasargad_coins/122/product/iran_qajar_muzaffar_aldin_shah_large_silver_5000_dinar_struck_1902_at_st_petersburg_mint_of_russia_ef/784824/Default.aspx https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/spink/catalogue-id-srspi10157/lot-82b5e147-7873-4056-b023-a83300ca2a7c https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3835&lot=937
paul wood Posted May 10, 2020 Posted May 10, 2020 They are very similar to the carefully Ihndian nazarana issues which had a monetary value but were solely issued for presentation purposes Paul
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