E Williams Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Studio photo of a squared away Machine Gunner troop, proudly displaying his MGSS badge, along with his new P-08 holster with probably has a brand new luger inside. His haube cover displays MG stamped which I haven't seen all that much. I would say he was assigned to an Ersatz MG unit with no specific regt affiliation. I can't see under mag glass his unit or his belt buckle inscription. Any idea Chris? http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-28387800-1380122641.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_09_2013/post-16240-0-54114900-1380122687.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hello! Neu-Ulm was the home of the bavarian 12th Inf.Rgt. In 1914 they had three bataillons and one MG-company In 1916 a 2nd and a 3rd MG company were set-up. Maybe he is member of the MG-Ersatz-Zug 4, 811 or 813, who built those companies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hi, I think it is possible that he is in an MG comapny in the 16th bavarian infantry? I am a big fan of the 12th from neu Ulm, but there is no reason why he could not have been passing through when the pic was taken.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Williams Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Great info guys...thanks!!! I had the thought he might have just graduated from the MGSS school and returned to his unit and had this photo taken. With a brand new P-08 holster sorta draws me in that direction. Was it not 1915 that the MGSS school was set up? Edited September 25, 2013 by E Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) But it´s a simple soldier. I don´t think, he travelled far away. The 16th regiment came from Passau (315km) and Landshut (195km) Edited September 25, 2013 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Williams Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 But it´s a simple soldier. I don´t think, he travelled far away. The 16th regiment came from Passau (315km) and Landshut (195km) If he's from the 12th as you believe, the 12th was part of the 2nd Bavarian Div and considered one of Germany's top shock divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hi, Plenty of things can happen to make life unusual ;-) Wounded and sent back to a hospital in germany and landing up there... going to a cousins wedding on leave... some type of Lehrgang... stopping in there in the way from East to West front... there are so many anomolies in life that we cannot even think of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 E Williams: No, the MGSS were set-up at the beginning of 1916. The school was in Rozoy (set up ocotber 1916), it was called MGSS Kommando West. It later came to Tongern. Here is the list of the bavarian MGSS: bav. MGSS Abtl. 1 (former Nr.1 of Armee-Abtl. C) - from MGSS-Trupps 46, 187 and 188 - 1.october 1916 - 1st bav. Inf.Div. bav. MGSS Abtl. 2 (former Nr.137 of 2.Armdee) - from MGSS -Trupps 137, 189 and 190 - 7.october 1916 - 2nd bav.Inf.Div. bav. MGSS Abtl. 3 (former Nr.2 of Armee-Abtl. Strantz) - from MGSS-Trupps 42, 43, 193 - 24.november 1916 - 1st bav. Landwehr-Division bav. MGSS Abtl. 4 (former MGSSAbtl. 1st bav.Ldw.Div. of Armme-Abtl. Strantz) - from MGSS Trupps 135, 136, 138 - ocotber 1916 - 1st bav. Ldw.Div. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It may be the wine.... but I am sure that is a 16 on his cover?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishGunner Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Definitely the wine... I clearly see the "MG" not 16 But now that you mention it, I could use some wine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Hi, Plenty of things can happen to make life unusual ;-) Wounded and sent back to a hospital in germany and landing up there... going to a cousins wedding on leave... some type of Lehrgang... stopping in there in the way from East to West front... there are so many anomolies in life that we cannot even think of.... Hi Chris! Of course, there are some possibilities. We can´t know... Which wine shows you a 16, please? I´d like to have a good wine too, but here it is 9pm and I will have toi get up at 4am... Edited September 25, 2013 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Williams Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 E Williams: No, the MGSS were set-up at the beginning of 1916. The school was in Rozoy (set up ocotber 1916), it was called MGSS Kommando West. It later came to Tongern. Here is the list of the bavarian MGSS: bav. MGSS Abtl. 1 (former Nr.1 of Armee-Abtl. C) - from MGSS-Trupps 46, 187 and 188 - 1.october 1916 - 1st bav. Inf.Div. bav. MGSS Abtl. 2 (former Nr.137 of 2.Armdee) - from MGSS -Trupps 137, 189 and 190 - 7.october 1916 - 2nd bav.Inf.Div. bav. MGSS Abtl. 3 (former Nr.2 of Armee-Abtl. Strantz) - from MGSS-Trupps 42, 43, 193 - 24.november 1916 - 1st bav. Landwehr-Division bav. MGSS Abtl. 4 (former MGSSAbtl. 1st bav.Ldw.Div. of Armme-Abtl. Strantz) - from MGSS Trupps 135, 136, 138 - ocotber 1916 - 1st bav. Ldw.Div. You know now what you have done, Andy??? I'm going to search and search and hold out for a Luger with anyone of the about unit marks on it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Williams Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) That's a 'MG' for sure on the cover............... Ed Edited September 25, 2013 by E Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) I hope you don´t blame me for getting a heart attack while searching... And, yes, surely MG, not 16 Edited September 25, 2013 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hi Chris! Of course, there are some possibilities. We can´t know... Which wine shows you a 16, please? I´d like to have a good wine too, but here it is 9pm and I will have toi get up at 4am... Uggg!!! OK... maybe not ENOUGH wine.... I see the MG as well :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E Williams Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 I hope you don´t blame me for getting a heart attack while searching... And, yes, surely MG, not 16 Not actually searching...finding one, maybe!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 (edited) Uggg!!! OK... maybe not ENOUGH wine.... I see the MG as well :-( Victim of the cheap wine: Edited September 25, 2013 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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