What Is This Ribbon? Friedrichs-Orden?

[Chris Taylor]

Hello All!

Just trying to determine what award this is on this ribbon bar.

Is it a Friedrichs-Orden??? If so I can't recall seeing one with a crown & sword device before..... or maybe my memory is just failing me again.

Any thoughts, please let me know.

[Stogieman]

Well, that is what it looks like.... but what else is on the bar? That might help. I have not seen one with a C&S device either, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad bar. I have a set of gold swords that would fix it, depending on what else is on there...

[Chris Taylor]

Thanks Rick, nice to know I'm not losing my mind.

Here's what the whole thing looks like. The late war swords on the Hindenberg & missing FS Device had me wondering if maybe this bar was stripped & then had these 2 added later, but there are no device fasteners sticking through the backing. What do you think?

[Stogieman]

Ok, in looking at the "big picture" a couple of things... if it is a WFO, gilt swords would be appropriate. Probably a civil 25 on the end, that will be harder to find... option 2: second ribbon has been replaced... doesn't look quite right with respects to the other ribbons.

[Chris Taylor]

I definitely lean to this little bugger being messed with one way or the other, either with the wrong device or a complete ribbon replacement.

Thanks again Rick.