Auseklis Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Dear fellow collectors, Once again a field in Germany provided an item, nobody in my German forum has seen before. Obviously of Ottoman Turkish origin, but what is it? Thanks for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 I recived the item today. It is made of thin brass, very nicely done. Even if it is not military (but it looks sort of offical to me), I would be glad, if someone could translate the inscription. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATA Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Wen das osmanisch ist und dan noch jemanden findest der das übersetzt ist das mehr als ein sech richtiger;). den es gibt nur noch eine hand voll mensche die diese lesen können. Mfg Ata Edited January 2, 2014 by ATA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATA Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Und wen mann das mal nur ein bisschen genauer anschaut sieht man das unten alles spiegel verkärt stehet. ich glaub nicht das das ein sin ergibt und wen doch nur auf einer seite. Mfg Ata Edited January 2, 2014 by ATA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) The tughras at the top are interesting. Demir can translate it and I reckon it's a horse brass/ award. the tughras as will tell the era. I'll ask Demir. Edited January 6, 2014 by Ulsterman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 I can provide better pictures if needed. By the size I was thinking about something horse related too. I hope Demir can help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 (edited) I posted the item in my Ottoman medals and articles page and waiting for an answer. Regards Demir My websites: The Turkish War medal and everything about Canakkale (Gallipoli): https://www.facebook.com/groups/harpmadalyasi/ The Ottoman medals and articles etc: https://www.facebook.com/groups/osmanlimadalyalari/ Korean War medals : https://www.facebook.com/groups/koremadalyasi/ Edited January 5, 2014 by demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted January 5, 2014 Author Share Posted January 5, 2014 Great! Thank you Demir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Hi, It is same both sides but don't know what it is. Ottoman: Nefer Turkish: Asker, er English: Private, soldier Regards Demir Edited January 6, 2014 by demir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 What a cool thing to find in the field. Could it be a hilt of a sword of some sort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demir Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 The point is how did it end up in Germany? A German soldier fighting the British in the Ottoman soil took it home and lost it while working on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulsterman Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 How big is it? Any chance it's a fez badge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) The point is how did it end up in Germany? A German soldier fighting the British in the Ottoman soil took it home and lost it while working on the field. Thanks for helping with the translation, Demir! It is from a field near Berge (Nauen), were during WW1 a POW camp for russians was located. The POWs were employed to disperse the houshold garbage from Berlin on the surrounding fields. Houshold garbage back than was 80% organic waste, so it made sense to try use it as fertilizer. This continued until the late 1920s. Many smaler metal objects turn up there. I had another item from this region up for identification here: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/59792-stgeorgeish-looking-cross-what-is-it/ Edited January 6, 2014 by Auseklis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATA Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Bitte schaut euch das mal an. http://www.google.de/imgres?client=firefox-a&hs=nWm&rls=org.mozilla%3Ade%3Aofficial&channel=np&biw=1280&bih=609&tbm=isch&tbnid=0hlpfuFF8i-pDM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wehrmacht-awards.com%2Fforums%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D457968&docid=Pf-fhBMy1Q5lRM&itg=1&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi97.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl224%2Ftessiebelle1%2FDVC02465.jpg&w=640&h=480&ei=Ya_RUsarEYSmtAaI3oCgAQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=2802&page=1&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=0CH8QrQMwDw Mfg ata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auseklis Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hi Ata, If've seen it on Facebook already. Thanks again! Great work. One might think this is a 1920s Rudolph Valentino related "arab romantic" bijoux belt buckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATA Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Dank dir!!! Ich will nicht wissen, was hinter diesem Stück noch an Geschichte steckt. Weil auch es als Bodenfund aus unserer Rigion kommt.Thanks to you!I do not know what is still to story behind this piece.Because it also as a floor Fund comes from our rigion. Mfg Ata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogi Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) Who knows, maybe one Russian soldier visited Turkey etc and obtained this piece as a souvenir?Have you tried something like Belt buckle, it has a similar look. Edited January 23, 2014 by Rogi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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