John Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I recently got this , and the reverse is in very nice condition, but the obverse is quite scratched. I am loath to paint it, or 'restore' it, but would like to clean it up a bit, without ruining it. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I'd leave it as it is but you could try soot from a diesel exhaust pipe. It won't make it look perfect but maybe a little better than at the moment. If it doesn't work you wouldn't have damaged it either.Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Is there a maker mark on the ring? The cross is a wide frame example!Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 Hi Dave. Thanks for responding. It seems to have a "Z4" or "L4" on the ring. I 'll see if will come up on a photo. Standby. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 The photos are too blurred to put on the Forum. I've looked at it through a glass and it is 'Z4' It cost me ?26. Can you tell me anything about it? I no nothing about these! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 The photos are too blurred to put on the Forum. I've looked at it through a glass and it is 'Z4' It cost me ?26. Can you tell me anything about it? I no nothing about these! John←This is the "wideframe" maker marked piece that is known as a "24" :food-smiley-004: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 Cheers. Whats their current value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I recently sold one on e-stand for about $100 US .. it was in pretty decent shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 That's a nice one, worth holding on to.Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn R Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 I'm always paranoid about trying to restore core's. A friend of mine uses the polish made for cast iron stoves, "ZEBO". It's got the consistency of toothpaste but non abrasive and he's made a good job of his. I tend to subscribe to the school of thought that says that if the piece is not in danger of deteriorating leave it. It is however each to his own of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 I would definitely leave it as it is John,it has a good "been there" look about it.BTW does the cross have an extra mark on the eye ring?Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 Hi Chaps, and thank you for your advice. Dave B. , I had a look at the 'eye' , and it appers to have a small rectangle stamped on it. It would be on the Left side of the eye, as you look at the Cross, face on. It very hard to make out what's in the middle of the rectangle. It looks like a J or an I, but don't quote me on that! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave B Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 There are a few different marks that are seen on the eye rings of 24 marked crosses,the usual one is an acorn.Can you get a close up of the mark?CheersDave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 14, 2005 Author Share Posted May 14, 2005 Now that you mention it, it is an acorn. The Acorn is on its side, with the stalk facing forward, and the 'cap' to the rear of the Cross. I'm afraid my camera isn't good enough for the job. What is the significance of the Acorn? And I take it the 24 means the model of Iron Cross? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 "24" is the official contract supplier code for Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller in Hanau am Main. The acorn mark is probably some sort of QA mark. Iron Crosses made by Alois Rettenmaier often have, as well as the makers LDO code L/59, a range of other marks, circles, squares, dots, the tilde mark ( ~ ) and even a tiny swastika.That these various additional marks found on EKs are quality control marks is speculative, but logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph A Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 That is one sweet piece and I would not consider touching it in any fashion.What a beauty - great patina! What character. It just says "I was there;" a part of history. It looks as proud and battle-scarred as was the nation it served.Besides, dabbing a bit of paint on it would be like trying to fix a missing arm with a bandaid. Leave the old gal alone to her proud, quiet dignity, sir! Here's my salty old dog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn R Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 (edited) I've just purchased this "salty" one for it's engraving. I'm going to leave it alone though. The obverse photo is a little dark, but the paint finish has seen better days. Edited May 15, 2005 by Glenn R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn R Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 (edited) Reverse with screw (plate is back to front to prevent scratching). Edited May 16, 2005 by Glenn R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn R Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Engraving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Noce One. :food-smiley-004: Any idea of the history of the engraving? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn R Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 John, I'm assuming 1 MGK is 1 Machine Gun Company. Unfortunately I'm told that Reserve Infantry Regiments are difficult to research for individual officers. I'm reliably informed though, that Reserve Infantry Regiment 214 was a Mecklenburg Regiment.Cheers,Glenn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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