Eric Stahlhut Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 here's an example that certainly appears to be wartime issue--despite being definitely not by knauer--as it has the commensurate wear and tear for such a period piece.while the body is magnetic, the pin and hinge appear to be deeply tarnished or blackened silver...and the wreath has been hand finished, showing hand-cut notches onthe sides of the wreath. i tried to match the pin and hinge with perhaps an ek1 from my collection, but no luck so far. am widening the search.i like it a lot, and it's the fifth or sixth variant of the oldenburg fa 1st i have managed to acquire so far. any ideas on the maker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Gordon Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Hi Eric, I also like it but cannot match it to any specific EK1 maker either. What other types do you have? Is there a thread with them all? Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I really like the aging on that.Rich, there are a couple, but the server transfer is taking some time and I cannot access them to link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 here are some old pics, richard.the sew-on version is up in the air, but i haven't seen another one. usually if it's fake, there are other examples readily available pretty well done though, with decent attention paid to its manufacture.notice the drilled holes...they are nicely finished. lacquer on brass or tombac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 well, i just figured out the maker, i think. it was in front of me the whole time.it's a meybauer! it's all about the hand cut notches...i then compared the scewback to the pinback, and the details of the iron planchet are identical.go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Stahlhut Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 forgot to include this point in preceding post...one thing that i immediately considered was that it is ascrewback meybauer that had been converted to a pinback...doesn't seem to be the situation with this one...the reverse shows wear from an old price tag, glue residue damage, but no evidence that a screwpost has been removed.there's even a bit of old original finish left on the spot where the post would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Thatr is a really nice cross. Silly question, but who was Knauer? I guess this is the standard maker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I have yet to pick up one of these. They are among the more attractive designs for the crosses. Does anyone have the award breakdown for the first and second classes and noncombatant/combatant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Hi Paul, Neal O'Connor's original research states that he counted 6,900 1st class awards, 55,000 2nd class combatant awards and 1,645 2nd class non-combatant awards in Eutin. He also states a slightly higher number from another researcher but does not breakdown the 2nd class in his book aviation awards of imperial germany volume VI. Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted May 19, 2016 Share Posted May 19, 2016 Here is a variation I would not fall over myself to buy!!! http://www.ebay.de/itm/Oldenburg-Fr-Aug-Kreuz-1-Klasse-im-Etui-Sonderausfuhrung-4-teilig-gepunzt-/182138596318?hash=item2a684e6bde:g:NOQAAOSw71BXPf8H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Up for sale again.... http://www.ebay.de/itm/Oldenburg-Fr-Aug-Kreuz-1-Klasse-im-Etui-Sonderausfuhrung-4-teilig-gepunzt-/182195531238?hash=item2a6bb32de6:g:NOQAAOSw71BXPf8H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Modern copy made by Alexander Chichalov in Russia, I believe, judging by the maker mark. Edited July 5, 2016 by bolewts58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Beautiful cross, when I started the thread I was thinking Juncker..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Hmmmm, no bites, Well, Juncker used a similar pin to Meybauer on a number of it's badges including submarine and airship badges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolewts58 Posted July 8, 2016 Share Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Chris was referring to this fake.The Cyrillic mark is a dead give away. Chichalov makes collector copies and sells them as such. But,plenty of shady dealers buy them and then sell them as originals. Edited July 8, 2016 by bolewts58 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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