Army Doctor Display

[Paul R]

Here is another set facilitated by my friend, Mattias.  Thank you!

A very nice set to a medical officer in the Bundeswehr army.  I love the beret the most.  

[Jock Auld]

I thought the officers had bullion badges on their headgear?  Most round here do that I have noticed anyway?  I don't really know that much about the BW though to be honest so it would be good to know.

Cheers

Jock

[speedytop]

Hi Jock,

"... officers had bullion badges on their headgear?"

They can, but they must not.

"Offiziere und Unteroffiziere dürfen selbstbeschaffte, handgestickte Abzeichen tragen." > they may wear ...

Uwe

[Jock Auld]

Aha, so if they are a bit tight they just go with the issue.  Thanks for clearing that up for me I shall remember that in future!

Cheers

Jock

[Paul R]

Thanks for the comments.  I would love to find a bullion medical officer beret.  Are they difficult to find?

[Jock Auld]

Paul,

I will keep my eyes open for you, you see lots of BW stuff at the markets and it is mostly inexpensive.

Jock

[Paul R]

Thanks Jock!!  That would be awesome.   

[aubagne98]

Hi,

 

according to the topic "Army doctor ..." ... well these are rank insignias of a 2nd and a 1st lieutenant.

These are officiers of the medical corps, maybe "army doctor" cadetts who are in their university education with aesculapian insignia. Or older soldiers coming from the NCO´s ranks.

The German Army doctor has the rank insignia of a captain, and gets the German pay grade A 13  of a major.

Hauptmann with aesculapian insignia - Stabsarzt - pay grade A 13 as major

Major with aesculapian insignia - Oberstabsarzt - A 14 as Lieutenant colonel

Lt. Col. with aesculapian insignia - Oberfeldarzt - A 15 as Lieutenant colonel (superior pay grade)

Colonel with aesculapian insignia -  Oberstarzt - A 16 as Colonel

 

Michael

[Paul R]

Hello Michael, 

Thank you for the explanation.  That makes sense.  Here, doctors I've seen are of the Captain rank or above.  Do you have any images of these slides with the medical emblem on them?  Are they embroidered onto the field slides as well?

Regards

Paul

[aubagne98]

Hi,

 

both are worn nowadays , in former days only metal.

There are different kind of embroidered.

 

The official ones ZDv 37/10 http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Schulterklappen-Sani-Marine-Navy-Stabsarzt-gold-oliv-getragen-1748-/00/s/MTM0NVgxNjAw/z/jC8AAOSwq7JT03au/%24_35.JPG, a little stripe with the aeskulap.

and the non official http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Schulterklappen-Rangabzeichen-Sani-Luftwaffe-Stabsarzt-weiss-Flecktarn-1034-/00/s/MTMwOFgxNjAw/z/Y7MAAOxygPtS325F/%24_35.JPG, which the soldiers pay by theirself.

 

Michael

 

 

[Paul R]

Hi Michael,

Can you please post the images?  The links do not work for me over here.  :-)

Regards

Paul

[aubagne98]

Hi,

 

well, posting the photos is a little problem, because of the copyright.

 

does this work

http://www.ebay.de/sch/m.html?_odkw=&_ssn=anaconda62009&hash=item25a4bf2654&item=161677780564&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xstabsarzt.TRS0&_nkw=stabsarzt&_sacat=0

 

Michael

[Paul R]

Yes.  Those are great looking.  

[aubagne98]

Hi Paul,

 

these two pictures I took last weekend at the Swiss 2 day March.

The Oberstabsarzt told me, that he wears the non official rank slides. Well, that is the reason I wanted to take a photo for a collector friend I told him.

[Paul R]

Those are very nice slides.  I really like the first set a lot.  Where did he have them made?  Thank you for taking the images. 

[aubagne98]

I do not know where he got the slides, sorry.

[Paul R]

Well, they are very nicely done!

[aubagne98]

Hi,

 

these two photos I took last saturday at the IPA (International Police Association) March in Stuttgart.

[Paul R]

Those are amazing.  I like the added detail of the blue cord at the base of the shoulder strap.  Is this optional?  

[speedytop]

Hi Paul,

"... the blue cord at the base of the shoulder strap. Is this optional?"

No, the "Schlaufe" (loop) is mandatory in the Army (Heer).

It seems, that it is not the correct coloured loop, because the loop for medicals is dark blue; this loop seems to be medium blue, the colour for logistics.

Uwe

[Paul R]

That shade of blue is a bit light in tone.  Do you think that it could be from the flash?

[speedytop]

I don't think so! Please enlarge it and compare:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Div_BW_Litzen.JPG

Uwe

[Paul R]

Thanks Uwe.  Side by side like that, there is an obvious difference. 

[Jock Auld]

Couldn't remember what it was you were after and I picked this up in error today, prat that I am.  I will still keep my eyes open.  He had two army flyers berets too, burgundy coloured with a Luftwaffe style wing thing crossing a sword?  I believe they may be stationed at Fassberg?