Chris Boonzaier Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 No Idea who the makeris, but they do not have painted cores.... the one on the right was my wifes great grandfathers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian R Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Agree. Chris. This is a great design and very "classic" in my opinion. I just sold one recently - it was to a guy who was not an EK collector, just someone looking to put one on an SA uniform. It really seemed to play the part - something I would imagine on a 1920s or 30s SA tunic.Here is the cross next to a WWII era screwback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasle Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The hardware on the left one (with shorter hinge) matches to FR - Frank & Reif, or at least is very similar to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Is Frank & Reif accepted as a WW1 maker again? Many years ago I called up the firm and had an old gentleman on the line (I cant remember, but I think it was a Herr Reif), he told me Frank & Reif did not make iron Crosses 14-18, and that it was a stamping company as opposed to a jeweller. I think It was also mentioned that back in 14-18 the company had a different name, but dont quote me on that...For me that more or less put a lid on them being WW1 Makers.Of course, Info given by an old employee is not proof, but I have always believed that someone somewhere once went through the list of initials and just matched up known badge maker names. The same list still has the old KO Lemon of Königliche blah blah.BestChris Edited June 4, 2015 by Chris Boonzaier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 P.S. I know they made WW2 crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasle Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I can´t beat the old man, but I am just quite sure that hardware on the cross on the left is similar to FR (in box) marked crosses, whoever made them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hi,Thats a good start, There was a good discussion going on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasle Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 What I miss in that discussion is the fact, that there was nobody who would take one Fr. marked cross and one FR marked cross and compare them. If there is no frame match and no hardware match, what the heaven they are talking about when guessing it was one maker? And if there is a match... why they wasted their time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 Hi,I think like with many discussions a thread developes in a number of directions with various points being discussed.I dont have the crosses needed to compare, I guess what is needed is one of the collectors who can recognise frames and cores at night 10m underwater ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasle Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 No match. No Friedländer, no GOK, no Banana... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now