Biro Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 ...A 1945 is always immediately identifiable, on sight, by its flat covers and stringy edges......←A few years more handling required to produce good quality string from this 45er -but it WILL come.... There's no bringing back the gold leaf however.. Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biro Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Some of the 1945 Books bear a photograph of the recipient facing the page bearing the recipient's name.........←Alas, not this one.... Valid without photo..Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biro Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Nice contents though...An 'A' type...nothing to do with rank Rick?Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 (edited) Hero of the Soviet Union!!!! Have you gotten Zainetdik Nizamutdinovich Akhmetzyakov's entry from the "Heroes" books? I don't have those.I'd say "A" books are MOST often officers-- as if their paperwork was processed first. Not always, but most of the time. Whether it was 80:20 or 70:30 or 90:10 I don't know, but I'd say the large majority of "A" books were officers.On the other hand, just from his awards, a Valor Medal in there makes me think maybe NCO.***And don't we wish we knew whose Nomenklatura phone number was important enough to be written on the inside front cover!!!?*** Ah, trick question, I see now from the Lenin thread! But I'm reading his name as "AkhmetzyaKov" and not "AkhmetzyaNov" because of the SLIGHT curling on the right side rather than straight up and down of the n's. Edited July 27, 2005 by Rick Research Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 (edited) Hello Rick,to edit post number 1found an order book with1947*-"Г": without photo but with a place for a photo, with black Soviet state seal on cover (*1947 date last page) middle quality bright red booklett, (Valiant Labour Medal awarded 10.05.1951 without s/n) 1966*-"Ж": with photo, with black Soviet state seal on cover (*1966 date last page) middle quality bright red booklett, (Distinguished Labour Medal awarded 5.11.1967 without s/n)1967*-"З": without photo but with a place for a photo, with gold Soviet state seal on cover, (*1967 date last page) better quality dark red booklett, (Order Red Banner of Labour awarded 8.12.1973 s/n 885.020)1991*-"M": without photo and without a place for a photo, with gold Soviet state seal on cover, nice quality booklett (*23.02.1991 date of award, Order of Oktober Revolution Nr.: 102.560)regardsAndreas Edited July 27, 2005 by Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 EXCELLENT!!!! Thanks! Could you post your 1947 "G" book-- is it a NICE cover, or "stringy" bad quality?and1966 "Zh" book? That makes a WEIRD one, like the "G" books, because the only "Zh"s we've seen have been dated 1967, so that makes this one letter a two YEAR variant!Also, was that for an Order of the Badge of Honor? ONE THIRD of all of them ever awarded were bestowed in MASS presentations 1966-67, and we now have three different editions/series for EACH of those two medal-a-minute years! Also need to complete information on your "L", Dietrich!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Dietrich,complete my previous postregardsAndreaspicture follow later if necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 (edited) Here is a "K" orders-book, 1967-edition awarded 1980 Edited January 27, 2006 by Gerd Becker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 photo page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 page for the order entries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 Thanks for a NEW series/edition for the list Gerd!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 One to watch out for... A number of these walked out of government storage a few years back. Given that these are all blank, it's REAL easy for someone to add a new award to one of these books and make it "legit"... Just buyer beware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Inside... What's odd is that I had several of these blank ones and just sold this latter one. I found one that I kept and thought it was identical... turns out it's a different variation! Let me get some scans of it...Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Here's the inside of the second one. It's actually a PMD Type 6, but still the same "L" number... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 And the inside.Just be wary when offered a medal without any other documentation that's a really high number. It could be legit (and neat!) BUT... what a great way to pass of say, a questionable Order of Courage when it has a "real" order book...Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see you have a 1943 printing un-prefixed book. Here's one! It's just like the 1940 one at the top of page 2, except that it is dated Goznak 1943.Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 And the inside. Let me know if you'd like a scan of the page with the 1943 print date... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyFCO Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 Same print date as the previous one, but with a lower number and lower date... I wonder if you could pretty much count on these being consecutively issued??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 1943 Goznak page please for the files! An interesting thought about the consecutive serial numbers-- there's a gigantic gap in the very few from before the war, the even fewer DURING the war... and then the hundreds of thousands in the postwar paperwork avalanche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted July 26, 2006 Share Posted July 26, 2006 (edited) Here is my 1958 "D" order book, I think the picture was added later, thanks RIick for pointing out that this one is special Order of Victory Edited July 27, 2006 by order_of_victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 (edited) Heres another 2 "D" prefixed books Order of Victory Edited July 27, 2006 by order_of_victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 I know that many of these letter-prefixes are simply printing runs, but am wondering when so very few turn up scattered so widely in time if perhaps some currently unknowable issuing source had "dibs" ona batch of blank Orders Books whcih sat in ONE desk drawer to be ever so slwoly used. There are so MANY "G" Books that there doesn't seen to be any "reason" for the very few "D" books. That's why I'm starting to think that SOMEDAY we may discover that specific ranges of Orders Books were used by specific groups (railways? fish processing plant workers? Industrial awards?....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted July 28, 2006 Share Posted July 28, 2006 Its interesting to note that two of the awards awarded with "D" order book, were from that cluster of Lenins awarded on 26/02/1958. But why they re-surfaced in late 60's for Order of the Badge's of Honour is mystry Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimZ Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 Maybe I missed unless I can be pointed to the document, can anyone please post scans of a medal certificate. What I am looking for in particular (but please not exclusively if you want to pst more )is a Goznak 1945 version ideally having Bravery and Combat service. This is the one has the black lettering on the front (I believe earlier versions had gold lettering). Also, how many pages should this doc contain and till what date (that you know of) where these booklets still being used. Is 1947 on a 1945 version plausible?Great thread. One of the Red Bible's drawbacks is lack of information on award booklets....but then again, it would probably have ended up being twice it thickness.... Having said that....we'd all have bought it anyways! Thanks guys,Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted October 11, 2006 Share Posted October 11, 2006 (edited) Jim,This is the best I can do its a 1946 Gonzak for a medal of bravery I cant get shot due the poor quality of a) my camera b) the document itself It has 8 pagesAs Iam awar all order books for Bravey Combat service etc books have black lettering?Order of Victory Edited October 11, 2006 by order_of_victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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