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    Hello Joe ,

    The one shown above is an earlish one made when the wartime frames ran out and they still had good production standards , i.e. the core was still magnectic , painted before they put it in the frame and they bothered to burnish and frost the frame .

    When the standards started to slip the hinge was also mounted lower down on the back and not near the top as shown on the example above .

    So yes you can get one shown above or one using left over wartime parts .

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    Hello Joe ,

    The one shown above is an earlish one made when the wartime frames ran out and they still had good production standards , i.e. the core was still magnectic , painted before they put it in the frame and they bothered to burnish and frost the frame .

    When the standards started to slip the hinge was also mounted lower down on the back and not near the top as shown on the example above .

    So yes you can get one shown above or one using left over wartime parts .

    grant-

    precisely the answer i was looking for in

    spite of my rather poorly worded question!

    thank you kindly for your perspective.

    joe

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    How can you tell the difference between a left over and a new frame?

    Usually the left over frames have the same characteristics as their WW2 brothers in that they have die flaws , burnisherd & frosted , same pin and hinge assembly and sometimes the makers mark .

    When you have looked at these for a while you see the wartime production standard in the early versions start to slip to the very late stay bright glittery poorly defined horrors that came out last , it didn't happen overnight it was a gradual process from quality to crap that took around 25 years.

    Later frames have very poor defenition to the ribbing and poor detail in general often with a slight gap between the 2 frames and on the last examples the EK1 often has a circle at the top of the frame where they would solder a ring to make an EK2 ( using the same front frame for the EK1 & EK2 to ease production ) .

    You really need to handle a few of these to see the gradual deteriation of the quality going good to bad .

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