Fritz die Spinne Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) I got this grouping and wanted to be sure I am identifying them properly. The officer board with green I presume is Saxon, but beyond that, clueless. Jäger, perhaps,, if I am not missing some other possibility. I gather a cypher or number would have really helped. Bavarian 3 Landwehr or Reserve Infanterie? Beamter--anything special or specific? I know the enlisted 20 is a simplified model. Do the numbers seem to indicate Bavarian? Vielen Dank! Edited December 17, 2017 by Fritz die Spinne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) Hello Fritz! You´re right with the 3rd regiment. Reserve or Landwehr. What is the base colour of the reverse of the bavarian Beamter? Red? If red we have different officials...: Administrator, Rendant, Kriegsgerichtsrat, Telegraphen-Oberbaurat and more... Edited December 17, 2017 by The Prussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz die Spinne Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Hallo Andy! Thanks. Basically I am trying to ID these properly so I can choose what to keep or trade off/sell. The Beamter is dirty and deceptive with the original colour, but seems to be a burgundy velvet. I have a single Kragenspiegel I bought in a close colour that Chip thought was General Staff, The Beamter has more of what I would call a "dried blood version" of this colour: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The Royal Bavarian Army was a independent one . their units were not numbered into the Reichsheer.at the beginning of WW1 numbered 4089 active officers , doctors , veterinarian and beamten. and 83125 NCOs and soldiers.It was organized with three Army Corps ,six Divisions .each division with four Infantry regiments . numbered apart . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prussian Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Hello! The difference is the colour. The beamten had karmesinrot (crimson), ponceaurot (a little bit darker) and hochrot (a little bit brighter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 General staff patches for M1910 uniform were crimson . a rather pinkish red . the patch that you shows is for me a General Staff one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz die Spinne Posted December 19, 2017 Author Share Posted December 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, Bayern said: General staff patches for M1910 uniform were crimson . a rather pinkish red . the patch that you shows is for me a General Staff one. That confirms what I was told. Thanks. Does the enlisted Feldgrau "20" strike you as Bavarian, or is it anyone's guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Fritz : Yes ,its possible .the Royal Bavarian Army at the beginning of the war numbered 23 line Infantry Regiments and the Leib Rgt . except the Leib ,all weared Shoulderboards with only the number in chainstitching as your SB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritz die Spinne Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 Bayern, thanks, I am aware of the numbering. It is the style I wonder about--would you say the numbers themselves look more Bavarian in construction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Fritz : The style of number was rather uniform for all the German Empire Armies . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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