Navy bar?

[dond 2]

An interesting combo.

[laurentius 2]

Dear Dond

A nice non-combattant bar, but I don't think that it is a navy bar, there is no FA-cross, and also no hanseatic-crosses. Nice bar nonetheless, wonder what this veteran did during the war.

Kind regards, Laurentius

[ixhs 0]

Add a saxon Mannschaftsstand DA and the bar is perfect.

A few years ago this bar stayed in my collection.

That`s not a Schaumburg ribbon. It has a smaller blue stripe.

 

 

Edited February 13, 2018 by ixhs

[dond 2]

The ribbon is blue, not green. It came with the saxon LS medal but I don't think it is correct. I also looked at a possible Baltic Cross but the ribbon is not correct for that either.

[ixhs 0]

Yes, but the blue stripe on Schaumburg is smaller. As i bought it from a person, it had the DA15 on it.

 

 

 

[dond 2]

The problem with these medal clips is that things can be removed, replaced etc at any time. The DA15 doesn't go on a blue ribbon.  The Schaumburg does and it is close enough to be a manufacturers variant.

[Leutwein 6]

Hello all,

do we really have a FAM-ribbon? The ribbon looks like the saxon "Erinnerungkreuz" for 1866:

http://orden.100ossi100.bplaced.net/24a6bc96790dcbe01/24a6bc97a510ac401/index.html

The last ribbon could also stands for a swedish decoration!

best regards

Karsten

[Schießplatzmeister 3]

2 hours ago, Leutwein said:

Hello all,

do we really have a FAM-ribbon? The ribbon looks like the saxon "Erinnerungkreuz" for 1866:

http://orden.100ossi100.bplaced.net/24a6bc96790dcbe01/24a6bc97a510ac401/index.html

The last ribbon could also stands for a swedish decoration!

best regards

Karsten

Agreed!

This is a pre-WWI large medal bar.  The first position should be an 1870/71 EKII, followed by the 1866 Sachsen Erinnerungkreuz (Campaign Cross), followed by a Saxon DA, followed by an 1870/71 campaign medal.  The last ribbon is interesting and definitely could be a Swedish decoration.  So, properly restored, back to the way it was, it could be much more interesting.

[dond 2]

When did medal clips come into use? I still don't see a DA as the ribbon is blue. Still it would be easy to restore.

[seeheld 1]

Schießplatzmeister: 10 points! 

Regards

Seeheld

 

[dond 2]

Then it has to be pre-Centennial/ 25 year Oaks. What 1870/1 campaign medal, fighter or stay at home steel?  I assume with the EK on Black/white ribbon it would be a bronze one.  Still not sure about the DA since the ribbon is blue.

[laurentius 2]

Dear Dond

It could also be the 1870 version of the Kreuz für treue Dienste.

Kind regards, Laurentius

[Schießplatzmeister 3]

27 minutes ago, dond said:

Then it has to be pre-Centennial/ 25 year Oaks. What 1870/1 campaign medal, fighter or stay at home steel?  I assume with the EK on Black/white ribbon it would be a bronze one.  Still not sure about the DA since the ribbon is blue.

Hello again Don:

The 1870/71 campaign medal would be bronze as this soldiers other awards were combat-related.  The DA ribbon does look more blue than green, but this is normal for these early ribbons.  I have seen this before concerning groups from this era.  Here is an example of an earlier-type DA ribbon that is somewhat similar in color:

https://www.weitze.net/militaria/24/Sachsen_Koenigreich_Landwehr_Dienstauszeichnung_II_Klasse_1874_1913__292524.html

Best regards,

[ixhs 0]

i only know clips on medal bars around 1900 or later

[dond 2]

So would this be a better representation?