dond Posted February 13, 2018 An interesting combo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laurentius Posted February 13, 2018 Dear Dond A nice non-combattant bar, but I don't think that it is a navy bar, there is no FA-cross, and also no hanseatic-crosses. Nice bar nonetheless, wonder what this veteran did during the war. Kind regards, Laurentius Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ixhs Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) Add a saxon Mannschaftsstand DA and the bar is perfect. A few years ago this bar stayed in my collection. That`s not a Schaumburg ribbon. It has a smaller blue stripe. Edited February 13, 2018 by ixhs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dond Posted February 13, 2018 The ribbon is blue, not green. It came with the saxon LS medal but I don't think it is correct. I also looked at a possible Baltic Cross but the ribbon is not correct for that either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ixhs Posted February 13, 2018 Yes, but the blue stripe on Schaumburg is smaller. As i bought it from a person, it had the DA15 on it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dond Posted February 13, 2018 The problem with these medal clips is that things can be removed, replaced etc at any time. The DA15 doesn't go on a blue ribbon. The Schaumburg does and it is close enough to be a manufacturers variant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leutwein Posted February 13, 2018 Hello all, do we really have a FAM-ribbon? The ribbon looks like the saxon "Erinnerungkreuz" for 1866: http://orden.100ossi100.bplaced.net/24a6bc96790dcbe01/24a6bc97a510ac401/index.html The last ribbon could also stands for a swedish decoration! best regards Karsten Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schießplatzmeister Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Leutwein said: Hello all, do we really have a FAM-ribbon? The ribbon looks like the saxon "Erinnerungkreuz" for 1866: http://orden.100ossi100.bplaced.net/24a6bc96790dcbe01/24a6bc97a510ac401/index.html The last ribbon could also stands for a swedish decoration! best regards Karsten Agreed! This is a pre-WWI large medal bar. The first position should be an 1870/71 EKII, followed by the 1866 Sachsen Erinnerungkreuz (Campaign Cross), followed by a Saxon DA, followed by an 1870/71 campaign medal. The last ribbon is interesting and definitely could be a Swedish decoration. So, properly restored, back to the way it was, it could be much more interesting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dond Posted February 14, 2018 When did medal clips come into use? I still don't see a DA as the ribbon is blue. Still it would be easy to restore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeheld Posted February 14, 2018 Schießplatzmeister: 10 points! Regards Seeheld Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dond Posted February 14, 2018 Then it has to be pre-Centennial/ 25 year Oaks. What 1870/1 campaign medal, fighter or stay at home steel? I assume with the EK on Black/white ribbon it would be a bronze one. Still not sure about the DA since the ribbon is blue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
laurentius Posted February 14, 2018 Dear Dond It could also be the 1870 version of the Kreuz für treue Dienste. Kind regards, Laurentius Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schießplatzmeister Posted February 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, dond said: Then it has to be pre-Centennial/ 25 year Oaks. What 1870/1 campaign medal, fighter or stay at home steel? I assume with the EK on Black/white ribbon it would be a bronze one. Still not sure about the DA since the ribbon is blue. Hello again Don: The 1870/71 campaign medal would be bronze as this soldiers other awards were combat-related. The DA ribbon does look more blue than green, but this is normal for these early ribbons. I have seen this before concerning groups from this era. Here is an example of an earlier-type DA ribbon that is somewhat similar in color: https://www.weitze.net/militaria/24/Sachsen_Koenigreich_Landwehr_Dienstauszeichnung_II_Klasse_1874_1913__292524.html Best regards, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ixhs Posted February 15, 2018 i only know clips on medal bars around 1900 or later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dond Posted March 26, 2018 So would this be a better representation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites