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    Posted

    My late dear friend Rick's obsession with the HOLY LADY encourages me to share the attached image in tribute.    A ‘recent discovery’ yields even more spectacular deviant insignia ramifications for this unique honor.  No, not Georgien Orden der Heiligen Tamara, Bruststern 1.Klasse in übergroßer Ausführung für Generäle!!  Certainly much more likely, Czar Ferdinand himself commissioned this example!!   The star body design itself tells the story.      

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    Posted

    Hi.It seems to me that this oder is a modern fantasy.I would like to see photos with an example of wearing this order and some documents.Regards.Alexander.

    Posted

    Difficult to be certain as all recipients of the order of Queen Tamar only received the award document. The stars were made privately at the recipient's expense which is why there are miriads of variants ranging from awful to superb quality.

    Paul

    Posted (edited)

    Hello,

    This particular piece is not listed in the 1989 Karlheinz Müller, Limburg auction catalogue which had a large number of the Orders and uniforms of Zar Ferdinand 1. of Bulgaria.

    The seller's description does not mention a relationship to Zar Ferdinand 1. of Bulgaria:

     "Georgien Orden der Heiligen Tamara, Bruststern 1.Klasse in übergroßer Ausführung für Generäle,

    wohl Silber und teilweise vergoldet, Zentrum Silber mit vergoldeten Erhöhungen, mehrteilig gearbeitet
    (zweiteiliger Stern bestehend aus einem vierstrahligen silbernen und goldenen Stern, diese rückseitig vierfach verschraubt),
    rückseitig an feinem Nadelsystem, Höhe 96,07 mm (also wie ein Großkreuzstern !!!), herausragend gearbeitetes Stück in absolutem Bestzustand,
     in dieser fast einmaligen Ausführung extrem selten"

    A curious piece to be certain.  Apparently there is no provenance regarding this piece.  It appears to be well-made, but one cannot be certain regarding who made it and when it was made. 

    Best regards,

    Edited by Schießplatzmeister
    Posted (edited)

     Schießplatzmeister, 

    I envisioned my comment concerning this Tamara star as more of a satiric remark concerning Frankenstein creations designed to excite and entice the unwary, a topic of this thread.   

    This piece combines a Bulgarian Order of National Merit style grand cross star body with a copy Tamara center [of the same size as recent 75 and 85 mm wide Tamara examples].    It seems of a piece with these recent tinnie or headgear ‘star’ Tamaras that appeared on the market via eb#ay within the past several years.   Neither Klietmann nor any other published source nor Rick Research’s work describes any of these ‘varieties’.  It has no similarities with H.R.H. Davit Bagrationi's Tamara award insignia. 

    I made the Ferdinand comment as his overweening interest in awards is well documented and this star’s body appears to utilize a Bulgarian format.   I doubt that he would have accepted or commissioned such an unprepossessing item!  Further, I’m almost positive that neither Georgian Legion ‘authorities’ nor the ‘1922 Paris-based Georgian exile government’ awarded Ferdinand this ‘honor’.

    Bryansk1959 & VtwinVince correctly attribute this thing as a modern [2018?] fantasy, in my opinion.  Again, I intended my remarks to be taken sardonically.  

    Edited by 922F
    spelchek
    Posted

    Hello Paul,

    No worries!  Thank you for your thorough observations and explanation.  I have very little knowledge regarding this particular Order.  I thought that you were probably leaning on the side of satire!  I now see what you mean about the altered star body.  I am very familiar with stories regarding this individual.  You comment "It is best to stick with the urkundes they tend to be less of a problem" has me in stitches!!!  I have an interest in the awards of Ferdinand and have examined a piece in person from the Karlheinz Müller sale.  Although I didn't mention my opinion above, my guess is that this particular piece may have been assembled circa "2015".  Much older than 2018! :)

    Best regards,

    Posted

    Also no Tamar in the 1998  in the forgotten king Ferdinand Sotheby's sale which i catalogued and none with the pieces which remained with the family.

    PAUL

     

    • 4 months later...
    Posted

    To add to this resurgence, here is a cigarette case which has just found its way into my collection...52564B88-68B0-427D-9F72-BBBD1F00D210.thumb.jpeg.bd5dca9458e3b904c9d23e1a922f43d4.jpeg358D07AD-5B76-4436-9476-80ADDB82600F.thumb.jpeg.9b8c79913b844c2a9c4e41a1b14fa127.jpegA79B8D68-F09C-458C-A038-FB230328625A.thumb.jpeg.caee8a27967f96042b8d6c48a1b9105d.jpeg2CA38733-C867-437D-82AB-6B0B798E1BC8.thumb.jpeg.c4a5a31fcae7cd7e468ff7faffc92ea3.jpeg0E34BEA9-9F0E-4EE5-9C61-8C73F83233D4.thumb.jpeg.6f3eeddadbd698ace470966da1c5ec51.jpegF0E2C36E-9F05-483B-9D6A-83D0C70181C2.thumb.jpeg.ab7e0f3a54fa910000c76c27cf8da774.jpeg45F8DB17-6875-4CDE-84FF-3A703152FBE1.thumb.jpeg.817f0b4327c80179911dc92fe6a0522a.jpeg

    Posted

    Unfortunately i didnt look at that and am travelling now so will take a while before i can verify

    • 1 month later...
    Posted
    On ‎22‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 15:11, Bob said:

    To add to this resurgence

    Here are my 2 cents, double Tamara ribbon on knopfloch spange...

     

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    Posted

    Most unusual. Privately made fittings for Tamar are considerably rarer than the order itself. A wonderful acquisition. Certainly miniatures are as rare as rocking horse manure.

    Paul

     

     

    • 7 months later...
    Posted

    Not my collecting field, and I will move it on... but I picked it up because I had a "Rick Flashback".... what is pretty interesting... it is not to a bavarian... which is kinda unusual for these... ba5.thumb.jpg.05f22745a263ed6eaecd332f00d592c3.jpg

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