eurorders Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Kindly tell me if these epaulettes are French, or another nation? I am thinking they were from the mid 1800s. Thanks in advance.. (also anything else known about them).. Please note the form and placement of hte eagles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hello , I think that they are not French . The eagles are in silver ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Hello again ,The lack of the crown over the head of the eagle puzzled me . now i think are French Second Empire , but National Guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka f Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 A better frontal view of the eagles would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graf Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 In my opinion they could be French made, however South/North America High ranking Officer - a rank of general? Usually the French Epaulettes do not have metal rims and like Bayern pointed out the eagles have crown over their heads Second Empire French general Epaulettes look different. Any way it is a nice pair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Hello , Certainly US Navy model 1852 Epaulettes for Captains were very similar ,but the eagle was in silver and lacks on the field the anchors equally in silver . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurorders Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 I am sorry that I did not see your replies til tonight. Here are closeups of the eagles, as you mentioned and also a separate metal eagle I found elsewhere whose general identify I do not know of. the epaulettes and metal eagle are unrelated but I still would be interested in knowing about each. Thanks, David I had three images and it is only allowing me to send one photo attachment with this for some reason and I have resized the other two twice. The metal eagle I referred to is a separate item from the epaulette conversation or piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Hello , First, the epaulettes the most probably are US Army . dress epaulettes of a colonel . the eagle is in silver and looks to her right.from when ? Before the Civil war perhaps. Second ,the metallic eagle iis very like of that used during the second French Empire. Please, enter to search with the following: Aigle de giberne du second Empire.www.passionmilitaria com .ther you will find the pic of the eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurorders Posted December 22, 2018 Author Share Posted December 22, 2018 I did find out that they are a) American b) colonel level and c) pore Civil War and d) at LEAST as early as the Mexican War. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Well ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS Allen Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 Hi @eurorders, I believe that these epaulets are British, not American. The small laurel wreath on the eagle indicates the eagle is the regimental badge of the Royal North British Dragoons, also known as the Scots Greys. These epaulets likely date from 1832-1855 or so and would have been worn by officers in full dress. During this period, the Scots Greys fought in the Crimean War. The eagle badge commemorates the capture of a French regimental eagle by the Scots Greys at Waterloo some years before. The real experts on these would be the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards Museum, who maintain the regimental traditions of the Scots Greys. I encourage you to reach out to them to confirm the identity of the epaulets. They likely maintain a similar set in their collections (or wish they did!). Their website is at: https://www.scotsdgmuseum.com/ British epaulets from this period are very similar to American epaulets, and I suspect many American officers wore imported epaulets. I have examples of both American and British epaulets from the period in my collection and the construction is almost identical. The eagles on these epaulets are probably not an American colonel's rank insignia, because of the small laurel wreath which is characteristic of the Scots Greys' regimental badge. Hope this helps! T.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Hello ,certainly the Scot Greys badge is a Napoleonic Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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