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Everyone sees that the first medal worn by this character, the middle head is left to look at, is that version not only available in the Austrian Empire? At the time of the First World War, wasn’t it already sent?

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1812 Overture,

Very interesting photo. Some links to a website which has some information on these medals: -

https://www.omsa.org/franz-joseph-bravery-medal-1859-1866/

https://www.omsa.org/franz-joseph-bravery-medal-1866-1915/

The soldier in the photo does not look old enough to have served in both the Austro-Prussian war of 1866 (in which he could have received the left facing Franz Joseph bravery medal) and in World War One (in which he would have had to have served to receive the Karl Troop Cross which was only instituted from 13th December 1916).

 

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The medal is a golden one. It is possible that during WW1 old medals which were still on stock or in museums were used for decorating actual services instead of melting them and produce new ones. It is possible that our Fähnrich wore a medal which was from an ancestor exchanging it with his own. 

Jörg Steiner writes in his "Heldenwerk" (pg. 9) that from August 1914 until March 1915 medals of all types left on stock were used because of the high amount needed.

The only issue which is sure is that he did not take part in a war before 1914.

Regards

Christian

Edited by Christian1962

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On 02/09/2019 at 16:12, Christian1962 said:

The medal is a golden one. It is possible that during WW1 old medals which were still on stock or in museums were used for decorating actual services instead of melting them and produce new ones. It is possible that our Fähnrich wore a medal which was from an ancestor exchanging it with his own. 

Jörg Steiner writes in his "Heldenwerk" (pg. 9) that from August 1914 until March 1915 medals of all types left on stock were used because of the high amount needed.

The only issue which is sure is that he did not take part in a war before 1914.

Regards

Christian

Just a little more info on the man:

Peter Alfred Anton von Coreth Frei- und Panierherr zu Coredo

17.01.1887 - 29.11.1948 (so definitely too young for anything before 1914)

Zgsf tit Objg, 4.TKJ (I guess this means what rank etc. he had at the date of the award: Zugsführer, titularmäßiger Oberjäger, 4. Regiment Tiroler Kaiserjäger)

award date: 10.12.1914 (which may explain why he got, perhaps, an old stockmedal)

source: http://www.heldenwerk.info/191418C.htm (and yes, this is the internet but a good source)

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A little bit more information on Peter Coreth Frei-und Pannierherr zu Coredo.  In the photo he is wearing the uniform of a Fähnrich, and he also has the embroided collar badge of a machine gunner.

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Posted (edited)
On 03/01/2020 at 21:26, Ian said:

In the photo he is wearing the uniform of a Fähnrich

So he really was a Panierherr

Edited by Utgardloki

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Utgardloki said:

So he really was a Panierherr

Indeed he was in a "double sense" (denglish)... 😉 - ist mir garnicht aufgefallen!

Cheers!

Edited by ArHo

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He must have been 'promoted'/gazetted to Fähnrich in mid/late 1918.

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