Marcon1 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Hi, Does anyone know what these are. They all have the Coat of Arms of Transkei on their back. I can't find any information about these "medals/orders/decorations". Pictures 2 and 3 have a front that looks like some Lebowa medals have and picture 4 has a Coat of Arms that looks a bit like the one from Kwazulu ?!?!? With thanks. Marcon1 Edited March 16, 2020 by Marcon1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur R Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 is the Order of Transkei, 2 is the Order of the Aloe. 3 might be a military division of the Order of Transkei. This is just a guess, based on the similarity of the star, and the coat of arms on the obverse being the Transkei Defence Force emblem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcon1 Posted March 17, 2020 Author Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Hi Arthur, Thanks for the usefull information. Order of Transkei (1987-94) Awarded in five classes: Grand Cross (GCT) - gold Grand Officer (GOT) - silver Commander (CT) Officer (OT) Member (MT) Any idea which class it is ?? === Order of the Aloe (1976-94) In a single class. Pictures are of 2 diff. - silver gilt and silver, thus 2 diff. classes ?? ==== On the 4th. one is says Pro Patria Medal. - Is that a clue to which class ?? ======= With thanks, Marcon1. PS: Info on orders from your very usefull listings on the Internet (which I no longer can find, did you remove them or did you list them somewhere else ?) maybe you should list them here on the forum for all to use and see (just an idea ). Edited March 18, 2020 by Marcon1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur R Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Hi Marcon1 My actual knowledge of Transkei awards is pretty much limited to what's listed in the 2005 Consolidated Official Table of Precedence. As the Order of Transkei badge looks gold and has a fitting for a neck ribbon, I would guess it's either the Grand Cross or the Commander. Interesting that the photos show both gold and silver badges for the Order of the Aloe, as the table of precedence lists only one class. I hadn't noticed the 'Pro Patria Medal' on the reverse of the badge. No such Transkeian medal is listed in the table, nor is it on the defence force webpage about Transkei medals. The ribbon fitting suggests that it was intended to be worn on the chest, so it was possibly either a medal, or perhaps a lower class of the Order of Transkei with an alternative name. It's very frustrating trying to work out these old homeland awards! Even the compilers of the table of precedence struggled, and added footnotes warning that in some cases they had not been able to trace the warrants for the awards, and that, in the absence of full information, some of those listed might actually never have been awarded. Thanks for your enquiry about my website. I'm pleased it has been useful to you. As I have parted company with the host service provider, the site is currently offline, but I intend to find another service provider and re-launch it in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megan Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 There could be space found on my server if you want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcon1 Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 Hiya, Here is another mystery item from Transkei - does anyone have any idea what it is (medal, order) ?? It was offered as a Lebowa Star for Distinguished Leadership, neck decoration. But as it has a Transkei Coat of Arms on the back it's not, but what is it then ??? HELP !! Marcon1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 It is the Order of the Transkei, but the class is still unknown. Will update as I get new information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 The first medal with Transkei flag on, was a possible proto type, because there are no information on it. The gold and silver decoration withthe aloe on, is the Orders of Transkei in different classes The last one the Transkei Pro Patria Medal, no info even in the archives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Hi Marcon1, Sorry for my silence, but I'm back on the site. I'm currently busy with a book on all Homelands Orders, Decorations and Medals. As soon as I'm done I will let you know. I'm waiting for more pictures and will add them. I will share 2 of my display boards. You can email me for any information and I will assist where I can Regards Archie777 Ciskei Prisons Medals My other picture is unfortunately too large for upload. I have much more to put on display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcon1 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 Hi Archie, First picture - full size or miniature ? - if full size, damn I just turned green (of jealousy 👽). Did notice you have several medals double in the display - are there differences between them ? (for example: 2nd. row SA 2015 Centenary medal). If willing to share pictures you should also contact Megan (Medals of the World) - I'm sure she will be very happy to use them on her website. As for pictures for myself - see below list (just a few 😉) Bophuthatswana Police Decoration for Distinguished Service. (TK) (1992-95) Bophuthatswana Prison Decoration for Merit in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96) Bophuthatswana Prison Decoration for Valour in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96) Bophuthatswana Prison Medal for Valour in the BPS (1984-1994) Bophuthatswana Prison Medal for Merit in the BPS (1984-1994/1984-96) Bophuthatswana Defence Force Medal for Distinguished Gallantry (1982-94) Bophuthatswana Defence Force State President's Medal (1990-1994) Ciskei Police Order of Ntaba kaNdoda (NKN) (1981-1995/1981-1994) Ciskei Police CP Star (Cross) for Distinguished Leadership (SPDE) (1981-1995) Ciskei Police CP Star for Distinguished Service (SPME) (1981-1995/1981-1994) Ciskei Defence Force Pro Merito Medal (PMM) Ciskei Defence Force CDF Long Service Medal (1988-1994) – 20 years Ciskei Prisons Service Gallantry Cross (PGC) (1988-94) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Excellence (PSE) (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Distinction (PSD) (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Merit (PSM) (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Merit (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Commendation Medal (1988-94/1988-1996) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 30 years service. Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 20 years service. Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 10 years service. KwaNdebele Police KNP Gallantry Cross (Gold) KwaNdebele Police KNP Gallantry Cross (Silver) KwaNdebele Police KNP Order for Distinguished Leadership (1987-1995) KwaNdebele Police KNP Medal for Distinguished Silver (1987-1995) KwaNdebele Police Commendation Medal Kwazulu Police KZP Star for Distinguished Leadership (SED) (c1982-1995) Kwazulu Police King's Cross for Bravery (c1982-1995) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star of Excellence (SPA) (1990-94/1991-96) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Cross for Gallantry (CPV ??) (1990-94/1990-1996) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star for Distinction (SPO) (1990-94/1990-1996) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Star for Merit – Officers (SPM) (1990-94/1990-1996) Kwazulu Correctional Services KZCS Medal for Faithful Service: 30 Years (1990-94/1990-1996) Lebowa Police LP Cross for Gallantry (1990-1995) Lebowa Police LP Star for Distinguished Leadership (1990-1995) Lebowa Police LP Star for Outstanding Service (1990-1995) Lebowa Police LP Establishment Medal (c1990) Transkei Police TP Decoration for Distinguished Service (c1985-1995) Transkei Police TP Cross for Bravery (CT) (1975-c1986) Transkei Police TP Gallantry Cross (c1985-1995) Transkei Police TP Medal for Combating Terrorism (c1985-1994) Transkei Police TP Faithful Service Medal (35 Years) (1985-94) (c1985-1995) Transkei Police TP Medal for Faithful Service: Silver (1976-85) (1975-1985) - 30 years service. Transkei Police TP Faithful Service Medal (20 years) (1985-94) (c1986-1995) Transkei Prison Service TPS Star for Excellence (c1988-1996) Transkei Prison Service TPS Gallantry Cross (c1988-1996) Transkei Prison Service TPS Star for Distinction (c1988-1996) Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94) (c1988-1996) - 35 years Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service: Silver (1982-87) (c1982-1987) For 30 years service. Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (30 Years) (1988-94) (c1988-1996) For 30 years service. Transkei Prison Service TPS Medal for Faithful Service (20 Years) (1988-94) (c1988-1996) For 20 years service. Venda National Force VNF Gallantry Cross (PCF) (1985) (1979-1985) - gold Venda National Force VNF Gallantry Cross (PCF) (1985) (1979-1985) - silver Venda Police VP Distinguished Service Medal Venda Police VP Outstanding Service Medal Venda Prisons Service VPS Gallantry Cross (CPV) – Gold (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Gallantry Cross (CPF) - Silver (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Distinguished Service Medal: Gold (SPO) (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Distinguished Service Medal: Silver (SPM) (1985-1996) Venda Prisons Service VPS Long Service Medal: Gold (1985-1996) - 30 years faithful service. Venda Prisons Service VPS Long Service Medal: Silver (1985-1996)-20 years faithful service. Any pictures (front & back / obverse & reverse) would be welcome. Also any information on the ribbons of the Prison medals (very hard to find). With many thanks. Marcon1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Hi Marcon1 All full size, as I don't have space for the miniatures. Will try to get more pictures on my mobile, that I can start sharing Hi Marcon1, Those doubles are all variations. I had once 4 of each Honoris Crux, but cut down due to a lack of space. I have more awards that must go on display, but the book keeps me very busy for now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcon1 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 Hi Archie, I just realized that I do not know what is what with Ciskei Prison medals. Ciskei Prisons Service Gallantry Cross (PGC) (1988-94) - picture 9 Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Excellence (PSE) (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 6 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Distinction (PSD) (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 7 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Star for Merit (PSM) (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 8 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Merit (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 4 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Commendation Medal (1988-94/1988-1996) - picture 5 (?) Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 30 years service. - picture 1 Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 20 years service. - picture 2 Ciskei Prisons Service Medal for Faithful Service (1988-94/1988-1996) - 10 years service. - picture 3 Did I identify them correctly ? Regards, Marcon1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Currently close to midnight here. Will get back tomorrow. Everybody is already sleeping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcon1 Posted April 13 Author Share Posted April 13 10 minutes to midnight here to, but sunday tomorrow 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Hi Marcon, Yes you ID them correctly. Will share the others now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I couldn't find any information in Warrants of Government Gazettes regarding the following awards, but I'm sure it was Proposed Civil Awards for Transkei Transkei Pro Patria Medal I couldn't find any information in Warrants of Government Gazettes regarding the following awards, but I'm sure it was Proposed Civil Awards for Transkei Name unknown and its not the Order of Transkei. Will cover the Order of Transkei tomorrow I couldn't find any information in Warrants or Government Gazettes regarding the following awards, but I'm sure it was Proposed Civil Awards for Transkei Cross for Gallantry/Bravery (Gold) There is also a silver Cross for Gallantry/Bravery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Macron1, Unfortunately no pictures of the Order of the Aloe, but a drawing It was actually manufactured in 18ct gold and awarded to State President Marais Viljoen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available Order of Transkei, Class I, Grand Cross (Gold) (GCT) The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes. Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available Order of Transkei, Class II, Grand Officer (Silver) (GOT) The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available Order of Transkei, Class III, Commander (CT) The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes. Unfortunately, mostly drawings, but will add the colour pictures where available Order of Transkei, Class IV, Officer (OT) The Warrant said the ribbon was approved in 5 equal stripes. It was actually approved with 7 equal stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 Unfortunately drawings, but will add colour pictures where available Order of Transkei, Class V, Member (MT) The Warrant state 5 equal stripes, but it was approved and manufactured with 7 equal stripes Just a correction, Class I to Class III was never manufactured with green enamel in the roundel. Attached you'll find the insignia for Class I and II. Class II is the same, but only in silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie777 Posted Wednesday at 19:10 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:10 Class I and II is gold and Class II is silver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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