A strange mix of offiicers..... any Ideas?

[Chris Boonzaier]

The head honcho seems to have aschinger Borte... some have sleeve badges on the left, some have them on the right... a few look to have bavarian roots.... Is it a huuuge staff?

[Mattyboy]

The guy at far right looks like he is wearing the retired aviators badge. If so, he is rather old for a pilot... 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Mattyboy

[VtwinVince]

You're right, definitely a Fliegererinnerungsabzeichen. I see some wound badges, so at least late war.

[Glenn J]

That appears to Albert Ritter von Beckh to the right of the officer at front centre. I think probably very early post war.

Regards

Glenn

[GdC26]

3 hours ago, Glenn J said:

That appears to Albert Ritter von Beckh to the right of the officer at front centre. I think probably very early post war.

Regards

Glenn

Sounds about right - one of the gentlemen in the center has what  could be a Freikorps badge on the upper right arm, and others as Chris pointed out seem to wear (Freikorps) cuff titles. 

Kind regards,

 Sandro

[Chris Boonzaier]

Thanks for the thoughts guys...

[GreyC]

 

Hi Chris,

can you do a high res detail scan of the areas marked in pink in the photo. I suspect they are Armspiegel of the Vorläufige Reichswehr, denoting the unit. The cuff marked in black is the rank designation in the style of Vorläufige Reichswehr, and in yellow the string on the shoulder the corresponding rank insignium. They were not worn over a longer period of time, so (especially in the early phase) not all changed their uniform to new rank insignia at once. If I remember correctly, the Armscheiben were worn on both arms.

GreyC

Edited December 6, 2020 by GreyC

[Chris Boonzaier]

here you go... sorry for the delay....

[GreyC]

Yes,

the two officers in the middle of the 2nd row definitely  wear the uniforms of the Friedensheer as prescribed prior to 5th May 1919 whereas the others seem to have uniforms worn in imperial period yet with the Ärmelscheiben (oval unitpatches) of the Vorläufige Reichswehr.

Interesting!

GreyC

Edited December 25, 2020 by GreyC

[The Prussian]

Hello!

Far right I see an oval patch with 4?

That fits to Bavaria.

RW-Brigade 21 München with RW-Schtz.Rgt.41 and 42

RW-Brigade 23 Würzburg with RW-Inf.Rgt. 45 and 46

RW-Brigade 24 Nürnberg with RW-Inf.Rgt. 47 and 48

I´d say it´s a 46 or 48

[Glenn J]

Hi Andreas,

that makes perfect sense. Ritter von Beckh commanded RW-Inf.Rgt 47 and that appears to be brigade commander of RW-Brigade 24, Oberst Jakob Ritter von Danner to his left.

Regards

Glenn

[freiherr]

1st row second from right just one step behind everyone else was later GenMj Heinrich Ritter v Füchtbauer. He was beim Stab RW IR 47. He was the third MMJO winner here. However, there was a 4th MMJO -- third man from right as his ribbon was very big. I thought he was Spruner v Mertz but the man was killed duirng the war.

 

Elwyn

[Bayern]

I agree ,early post War photo .