Chris Boonzaier Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Ludwig von Holnstein.... is this a complete fantasy tunic ? I know officers had leeway... but this is still April 1915.... is it some kind of cavalry derivative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dwyer Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 ...and why no Reichs cockade? The coat looks like a mish-mash of Austrian and German styles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 9, 2021 Author Share Posted January 9, 2021 By Cooincidence, I tound this today... Gustav Fischer of the 8 bavarian Reserve Inf Regiment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The coat is basically a 1910 field grey tunic for officers with cavalry type collar of the model used By Dragoons and the Bavarian Heavy Cavalry ,but the breast pockets are not reglamentary and the turn up cuffs are higher than the usual swedish Cuffs of 1910 tunics . regarding the lost Reichscockade some Bavarians were prone to forget the upper cockade in the Field .as the pic is dated 1915 logically if Bavarian Ludwig dont carry the Aschinger Borte introduced in 1916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Boonzaier Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Bayern said: The coat is basically a 1910 field grey tunic for officers with cavalry type collar of the model used By Dragoons and the Bavarian Heavy Cavalry ,but the breast pockets are not reglamentary and the turn up cuffs are higher than the usual swedish Cuffs of 1910 tunics . regarding the lost Reichscockade some Bavarians were prone to forget the upper cockade in the Field .as the pic is dated 1915 logically if Bavarian Ludwig dont carry the Aschinger Borte introduced in 1916 I think you may have it with the cavalry cuffs, I must see if Ludwig had any cav background. Fischer definitely did not and was only promoted from the ranks in mid 1916 so no cav connection. The collars is problematic, I do not see a cav connection... this looks like a standard collar IMHO. As far as the Borte goes, impossible to date with Borte... many Bavarian Photos show it was often not worn. The Ludwig pic is early 1915, the Fischer one mid 1916 at the earliest. The scallops on the pocket seem to have the Austrian style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schießplatzmeister Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Hello Chris, Congratulations! A great photo of Silber TKM recipient Gustav Fischer k. b. R.I.R. 8 That unit was involved in a lot of action during the War. Best regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Hello Chris, I thought in Ludwig , If not Cavalry ,Field Artilley or ultimately Train . Why ? he carries a riding crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn J Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 15 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said: I must see if Ludwig had any cav background. Hi Chris, he is pictured as a General Staff officer; note the trouser Lampassen. He was originally an infantry officer - Infanterie-Leib-Regiment. Regards Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayern Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 The lampassen are barely visible,but they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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