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I possess those collar ranks, but as I am not so familiar with Austria-Hungary uniforms, can somebody help me with this.

Naturally, I am just assuming that belong to the Austro-Hungarian empire...

And to which rank they correspond to?


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You photographed the tabs upside down, but despite that, you have a pair of Parolis for an Umlegekragen featuring one Sternrosette for a Class XI Militär-Beamte ohne Portepee (provided that the tabs are imperial-period.) This is the Beamte-equivalent of an army 2nd lieutenant.


To me, they look scarlet-red which would be the facing color for an Artilleriezeugsbeamte, a Militärlehrer, a Militärfechtmeister, or a Militär-Beamte in general Armeestand. 


If they end-up being madder-red, then they would be the facing color for a Militärmedikamentenbeamte or a Militärtierärztliche Beamte. 


If the Sternrosette is silver made of stamped metal, then they are Republic-period Parolis for a  Feuerwehrman who is basically a Truppman who successfully completed basic training in the Feuerwehr and who also completed the basic First Aid Training Course.


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Many thanks for your very detailed answer. So we now now that the those are the collar ranks of the officer of the XI class, e.g. sub lieutenant.

This is the picture of the revers side, in order to try to check the color pattern.

As to the star (sternrosette) it is made of the silvered metal, but I don't think it's stamped


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I agree with Simius Rex. It is a fireman rank of "Feuerwehrmann" after 1945. The star is not embroidered but stamped. Therefore it is not a lieutenant-equivalent rank.

Here you have an actual pic, if you scroll down:








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