Duncan Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Recently bought this. The WW1 trio are straightforward, but rather odd that he or she only got the 1939-1945 Star. Also, does anyone recognise the orange and green ribbon? Can't find it anywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter monahan Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Not sure about the regs for the '39-'45 but I have always thought it wasn't awarded without the War Medal as well. The end ribbon, which I would describe a 'red and green' rather than orange and green is, IMHO, likely from WWI but I can't find a similar ribbon for Belgium, France, Italy or Bulgaria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, peter monahan said: Not sure about the regs for the '39-'45 but I have always thought it wasn't awarded without the War Medal as well. The end ribbon, which I would describe a 'red and green' rather than orange and green is, IMHO, likely from WWI but I can't find a similar ribbon for Belgium, France, Italy or Bulgaria. Thanks for the info. According to another site I put it on, the 1939-1945 Star ribbon was briefly awarded on its own in 1944, when it was called the 1939-43 Star. No medals awarded, just the ribbon. Awarded mainly to those who served the Battle of France 1940 and some other operations. Then in 1945 it was renamed the 1939-1945 Star and the medal created. Still no ID on the Red and green one. I agree with you, I think it's a foreign award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QSAMIKE Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 There were complaints by British servicemen at that time that compared to their American and French allies their chests were very bare...... No fruit salad...... It was decided to issue a ribbon so that they had something to wear..... The Canadians issued the Canadian Volunteer Service Medal ribbon for the same reason...... Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Could the last ribbon be Turkish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Yes, I Googled Turkish Medals and it matches some of theirs. Would be an odd one to have though. 11 minutes ago, QSAMIKE said: There were complaints by British servicemen at that time that compared to their American and French allies their chests were very bare...... No fruit salad...... It was decided to issue a ribbon so that they had something to wear..... The Canadians issued the Canadian Volunteer Service Medal ribbon for the same reason...... Mike Didn't know that, thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Hello If that is light blue and red it might be the Serbian Order of the White Eagle...which would be a very plausible fit...if not then a real head scratcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCollector Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 8 hours ago, jimn said: Hello If that is light blue and red it might be the Serbian Order of the White Eagle...which would be a very plausible fit...if not then a real head scratcher. You're right, it's definitely the Serbian Order of the White Eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolas7507 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 The stripes look green to me, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted November 13, 2021 Author Share Posted November 13, 2021 Yes, definitely green. I guess the colours could have faded or changed over time though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 The other ribbon colors look quite fresh... Check the reverse - It is normally less sun-faded than the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCollector Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 The color isn't green, it's light blue but the ribbon is in a bad shape. Here's an example of a ribbon of this order in a bad shape from the internet. I guess this light blue color has a tendency to look like a different color whenever the ribbon is beat up. The one below looks more grey than light blue. Once you've seen enough of these orders, you start to notice the ribbon without a doubt even with these discoloration variations so I'm 100% positive it's the Serbian Order of the White Eagle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted November 14, 2021 Author Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, BalkanCollector said: The color isn't green, it's light blue but the ribbon is in a bad shape. Here's an example of a ribbon of this order in a bad shape from the internet. I guess this light blue color has a tendency to look like a different color whenever the ribbon is beat up. The one below looks more grey than light blue. Once you've seen enough of these orders, you start to notice the ribbon without a doubt even with these discoloration variations so I'm 100% positive it's the Serbian Order of the White Eagle. Certainly looks like that. 19 hours ago, Great Dane said: The other ribbon colors look quite fresh... Check the reverse - It is normally less sun-faded than the front. Definitely green on the reverse too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BalkanCollector Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Duncan said: Certainly looks like that. Indeed. Even that orange/yellow color that pops up from the ripped parts of the ribbon looks the same now that I compare your ribbon to this one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimn Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Hello again. So are we looking at an officer's ribbon bar ( i don't think order of white eagle was awarded to OR ?) prob Army (or RAF...though to be fair it could even be a RN tropical uniform ribbon bar) dating from between 1943 and mid 1945.His WW2 active service is as u say prob France in 1940 but there are many other places to earn the 1939-43 Star ( as it was called then) If he was 18 in 1914 he would be about 47 in 1943..also prob not a senior regular officer as he has no jubilee medals ....that's my wild guess. I assume he received the Order of the White Eagle (if that is what it is) in WW1 but it could be later....was it awarded in WW2? I wonder if it is attributable and if it is his complete bar or just a part of his ribbon bar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan Posted November 15, 2021 Author Share Posted November 15, 2021 On 14/11/2021 at 19:10, jimn said: Hello again. So are we looking at an officer's ribbon bar ( i don't think order of white eagle was awarded to OR ?) prob Army (or RAF...though to be fair it could even be a RN tropical uniform ribbon bar) dating from between 1943 and mid 1945.His WW2 active service is as u say prob France in 1940 but there are many other places to earn the 1939-43 Star ( as it was called then) If he was 18 in 1914 he would be about 47 in 1943..also prob not a senior regular officer as he has no jubilee medals ....that's my wild guess. I assume he received the Order of the White Eagle (if that is what it is) in WW1 but it could be later....was it awarded in WW2? I wonder if it is attributable and if it is his complete bar or just a part of his ribbon bar.... Looks like it would have a fascinating story if it could talk. Not convinced its the Order of white Eagle though, the green or off white goes right to the edge, rather than having the narrow red on the edges. Agree though that it's the 193943 Star before the others were awarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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