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Kevin and Dave.

BG William O. Darby it is. Of his decorations, only the DSM, one PH and the the Order of Kutusov 3rd Class were posthumous. What's also interesting to note is that he was not authorized the CIB as his basic branch was Field Artillery.

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slava1stclass

Yea! You narrowed it down when you said he was not Airborne, plus there were only about 50 two time recipients of the DSC during WWII. Kevin

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If you have not yet seen forumite (though AWOL?) Dave Schwind's "Soviet Military Decorations to Americans during World War II," Journal of the Orders and Medals Society of America, 58, 5 (September-October 2007): 2-18, get an OMSA membership and get a copy (though dispense with even considering a life membership, I am sorry to have to advise). Dave has done absolutely excellent work with marvelous eye-candy.

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

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Thanks guys!

Just got back tonight from my travels around the UK (mostly north of Scotland...) and saw the article. I think they did it justice at first glance!

Thanks again!

Dave

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It took me a while to refind this thread.

In looking through the OMSA monograph on Col. Gleims' letters I found the following tid-bits:

p. 97: AGO statistical compilation of foreign awards indicated 20 DSCs,20 DSMs, 0 SS, 242 LOM, 4 DFC, 1 SM, 129 BSMs and 0 AM awarded to Soviet troops.

As you mentioned also, All Hands had 190 recipients of 7 different Soviet Orders and medals (p. 105) including 45 Order of Glory 3 classes to navy and Coast Guard men.

Very cool stuff.

Edited by Ulsterman

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It took me a while to refind this thread.

In looking through the OMSA monograph on Col. Gleims' letters I found the following tid-bits:

p. 97: AGO statistical compilation of foreign awards indicated 20 DSCs,20 DSMs, 0 SS, 242 LOM, 4 DFC, 1 SM, 129 BSMs and 0 AM awarded to Soviet troops.

As you mentioned also, All Hands had 190 recipients of 7 different Soviet Orders and medals (p. 105) including 45 Order of Glory 3 classes to navy and Coast Guard men.

Very cool stuff.

I am very hesitant in disputing Al Gleim?s research work; he was one of the best.

However, if I am reading his findings correctly, he indicates that there were not any Silver Stars awarded to Soviet troops; and yet, I am aware of two award documents for Silver Stars which reflect such awards.

Also, when he reports twenty Distinguished Service Medals, I assume that he is speaking of not just Army, but both Army and Navy Distinguished Service Medals, as I am aware of one award of the Navy Distinguished Service Medal to a person in the Soviet Navy.

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The AG's statitical compilation is clearly wrong on this matter, but that's what the Army reported to itself. Until someone follows in Gleim's footsteps and pulls and indexes all the General Orders from the various Army headquarters, we'll not know the real number. And even that will probably miss a few "field" awards that simply were never followed up with a General Order.

Ultimately, the Navy award cards will be digitized and made available. That will help answer that part of the question, but still leaves gaps, unfortunately. Each time I've tried to check the Navy cards against another source, I get a different answer.

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Are we speaking, as is the title of this thread "Soviet awards to Americans [uS]" or have we confused it by flipping things and making it into "American [uS] awards to Soviets"? These are two very different issues and I fear things have gotten very badly muddled-up.

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No confusion really, merely listing both the types of Soviet-US awards that Gleim listed.

If he had lived, imagine what else he'd have discovered.

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Gents,

  Major General Clarence R. Huebner, Commanding General, V Corps, seen wearing the Order of Suvorov Second Class and the Guards badge.  

Regards,

slava1stclass

CRH.jpg

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On 11/09/2019 at 15:12, slava1stclass said:

Gents,

  Major General Clarence R. Huebner, Commanding General, V Corps, seen wearing the Order of Suvorov Second Class and the Guards badge.  

Regards,

slava1stclass

CRH.jpg

Gents,

  MG Huebner meeting with the Soviets at the Elbe River on April 26, 1945.  Pictured from left to right are:  BG Charles G. Helmick (CG, V Corps Artillery), MG Huebner, Guards Major General Vladimir V. Rusakov (Commander, 58th Guards Rifle Division) and an unidentified Soviet field-grade officer.

Regards,

slava1stclass

Huebner and Rusakov.jpg

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