Daniel Murphy Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 (edited) i happen to think vaulted crosses are...uh... SEXY!! Joe, I must concur. They just ooze class and style. Vaulted screwbacks? Even better. When I pick them up I just marvel at the ingenuity of the makers and quality of what they were able to produce. Dan Murphy Edited May 27, 2006 by Daniel Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Look at the pin! It has got the same style of pin like the new Oldenburg and Braunschweig cross fakes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 Would sure like to see a side by side comparison of photos to see if this ek is a fake or only the mark. The cross is very convincing although the wide hinge seems unusual to me. But a side by side would ferrat out the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I don't think the pin is the same Jens... This pin does not have the nasty point like on the Brunswick fakes. The pin on this one looks cut off (blunt) and finished that way to me. granted, the photo isn't the best.While I am still unsure of the piece, I think logical arguments can be made both ways on this.... I certainly would not spend a great deal of money on one of these until we had more substantive information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I am 100% sure it is a fake. It looks crappy and not like any Godets I ever saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony J Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 I am 100% sure it is a fake. It looks crappy and not like any Godets I ever saw.I agree with you about the quality of the core and the beading not being up to the usual Godet standards.What I can't figure out to my satisfaction is the trademark stamp. It is nicely centered and does seem to have be applied to the back plate before the frame was assembled. The trademark is clearly and evenly struck as if done on a hard surface backing it up during the strike. It doesn't show the light strike or the pushed in or dimpled look of a mark applied after the cross was assembled. The quality of the hinge (though crookedly applied) is quite good as is the catch.I really don't know what to make of it. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biro Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Would sure like to see a side by side comparison of photos to see if this ek is a fake or only the mark....a side by side would ferrat out the truth.BrianThe cross on the right is the only WW1 example that can be 100% accredited to Godet. I know of no other core appearing on a 'correctly' marked WW1 Godet. It may not be fake, but it's not a Godet as we know it.[attachmentid=42276] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biro Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 What I can't figure out to my satisfaction is the trademark stamp. TonyIf the piece Micha posted is a genuine 30's example (and the use of a Gebruder and not J Godet mark would fit that time frame) this would be a first EVER on an EK1... wouldn't it?The only 'Gebr Godet' marks I've ever seen have been super elaborate affairs of dubious authenticity on 1870 buttonhole EK's like this one... [attachmentid=42277]...so there is probably no reference point for this particular marking which is always cause for concern....Marshall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorhead Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 And the next one....it looks like round pin Godets are becoming a fashion!http://cgi.ebay.de/EK-1-Godet-Berlin-1914_...itemZ6286379905Micha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregM Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 MarshallThat is a FANTASTIC mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony J Posted June 7, 2006 Share Posted June 7, 2006 And the next one....it looks like round pin Godets are becoming a fashion!http://cgi.ebay.de/EK-1-Godet-Berlin-1914_...itemZ6286379905MichaMicha,Look at it closely and compare it with the first one you posted. It's the same cross. Different background. Look at the damage to the beading on the upper arm , left side. Also look at the various spots and lines of patina and scratches. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JensF. Posted June 8, 2006 Share Posted June 8, 2006 I think this won't be the only example of that fake. Yes, I am sure it is a fake. It is always strange if two or more completely new and unknown types of medals appear at the same time. Stay away from that cross, thats all I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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