Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) Cover:Depiction of the award on the left of the document:This is towards the bottom of the left side of the document: Edited April 15, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) The the main document:Signed by General Hoffmann so figured I'd include a few pics of him and his awards:Photo from Uniformen der Nationalen Volksarmee der DDR 1956-1986. Edited April 15, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) Photo from Auszeichnungen der Nationalen Volksarmee der Deutschen Demokratischen Republic. Edited April 15, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) One of the General's ribbon bars:Photo from Auszeichnungen der Nationalen Volksarmee der Deutschen Demokratischen Republic. Edited April 15, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) Another of his ribbon bars:Pics from Auszeichnungen der Nationalen Volksarmee der Deutschen Demokratischen Republic.The General passed away in 1985. Edited April 15, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Darrell Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 His ribbon bar from the above uniform:Photo from Auszeichnungen der Nationalen Volksarmee der Deutschen Demokratischen Republic.Maybe my eyes, but they don't look the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 (edited) Maybe my eyes, but they don't look the same Hi Darrell,Quite right... I didn't notice when I did the scans. He had several which included added awards, etc., over time. Sorry about that. I've just made the correction. Thanks! Dan Edited April 15, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 Finally got the shipment in from Bulgarian so here are more views of my Order for Merit for the Nation and Fatherland in silver: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hauptmann Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 And finally... after just over a month of waiting for it to arrive from Virginia here are more shots of my VVO:The case is identical to that pictured by Gordon in posts 96, 97 and 98 here:http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=8727&st=80Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 You are amassing quite the collection!! I wonder what WW2 awards the old timers in the photos once wore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Wow Dan, your collection is realy growing Keep up the good work Vic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytop Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hi Dan,Post 125: "I now have the Urkunde to go with this medal:"I'm sorry, that is not correct.The Urkunde is from 1962, the medal is from 1977 -1986 (34,7mm 1977-1983, 35mm from 1984 -1986)Looking at "Bartel, DDR-Spezialkatalog 1949-1990 Band I, Staatliche Auszeichnungen", you can find for "Treue Dienste NVA in Bronze" 6 different versions of the medal.That is a medal from 1962:RegardsUwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Craig Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Dan,Sorry but I must agree with Uwe. Do you have a copy of Bartel's book? A necessary tool to collect DDR medals. Another way to tell your medal does not match an early Urtkunde is to look at the pin. Yours has the simplified pin catch and not the early barrel pin catch as posted by Uwe. Not really a problem though. All you need to do is get a medal to match the Urkunde.Cheers,Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Broadhurst Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Nice order of merit for the fatherland and VVO , i got to get me some of those ! And i,ve got to get me a medal bar they are great Dan ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 You are amassing quite the collection!! I wonder what WW2 awards the old timers in the photos once wore...Hi Paul,Many thanks my friend! Re: Hoffmann here's a quick bio:http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=5973And here's a listing of the senior officers of the DDR:http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=7149There's no telling what you might find. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Wow Dan, your collection is realy growing Keep up the good work VicHi Vic,Many thanks my friend! And your's and Grant's collections are growing in leaps and bounds as well. Thank goodness most of this stuff is still cheap! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Nice order of merit for the fatherland and VVO , i got to get me some of those ! And i,ve got to get me a medal bar they are great Dan ! Hi Grant,Many thanks my friend! And yes... run, don't walk as they are great!!!! On the medal bars I've been looking for years. Generally I'd find them with four medals and they'd always end up going for more than I could afford at that time. I think I lucked out on these. There's another set I know of with three Police medals but it's going for $75! Didn't make much sense to me... as the police medals are so common (except the earlier ones) and I just couldn't see it being that much more just because they're on a medal bar! I mean, you know what we got the set of six complete cased medals for... so think you'll agree.My understanding is they turn up a good bit on Ebay.de so keep your eyes peeled and hopefully you'll have some soon. Hope Vic has some luck too as they are very nice to have.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Hi Dan,Post 125: "I now have the Urkunde to go with this medal:"I'm sorry, that is not correct.The Urkunde is from 1962, the medal is from 1977 -1986 (34,7mm 1977-1983, 35mm from 1984 -1986)Looking at "Bartel, DDR-Spezialkatalog 1949-1990 Band I, Staatliche Auszeichnungen", you can find for "Treue Dienste NVA in Bronze" 6 different versions of the medal.That is a medal from 1962:RegardsUweHi Uwe,Is that the only difference... the pin type? Actually on mine it looks to me as if it had the barrel catch but that it came off at some point. On the sides you can see the wear marks of the barrel moving in it's circular movement when grasping and releasing the pin.However, not to worry... I happened to have more. I pulled one out of a case I keep my Makarov in, switching it with the other one I'd posted. I'm getting ready to go down in the basement and scan the replacement... and actually I may scan all that I have so we can compare them. I think I have three total of this particular medal.Thanks for the heads up! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Dan,Sorry but I must agree with Uwe. Do you have a copy of Bartel's book? A necessary tool to collect DDR medals. Another way to tell your medal does not match an early Urtkunde is to look at the pin. Yours has the simplified pin catch and not the early barrel pin catch as posted by Uwe. Not really a problem though. All you need to do is get a medal to match the Urkunde.Cheers,GordonHi Gordon,As I just replied to Uwe, I'm heading down to the bunker to crank up my desktop and scanner and do up scans of my extras of this medal. Hoping the one I pulled out of the Makarov case is the correct one.As far as Bartel's book, No, I don't have a copy I'm sorry to say. The "only" DDR references I have are: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 I'd love to have more but I seldom see them and when I do they generally go for big bucks. But I'm always keeping my eye out for a good deal on any of the others.Anyhow I'm off to do those scans. Will post in just a bit.Thanks, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 (edited) Hi all,Okay, just finished the new scans. I just realized that I actually have four of this medal... one being on the new medal bar I just got. Here they are for comparison: Edited April 17, 2007 by Hauptman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 The one on the left in all of these shots is the one I originally posted, the one in the center has the barrel catch and the one on the right has the later type simplified catch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hauptmann Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Closeups of the pins: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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