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      Soviet Awards to Hungarians

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      :Cat-Scratch: I don't know what was "normal" for awards to Honored Foreign Comrades.

      I have never before seen a cased (can you show the whole thing?) Valor Medal OR one like that with a special printed page for the CITATION.

      :jumping::jumping::jumping::jumping::jumping::jumping::jumping:

      It says

      "For courage demonstrated by (redeeming/rescuing/saving) wounds

      in the Soviet forces in the period of the Great Patriotic

      War 1941-1945. By Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme

      Soviet of the USSR of 28 May 1966 is awarded

      the medal 'For Valor.'

      8 June 1966"

      The bit about wounds is not clear to me. It's an odd phrase to use for "being wounded" but I don't think it says for rescuing wounded Soviet forces. Loses me, I'm afraid.

      Rick,

      A more correct translation would read, "For heroism displayed while saving wounded Soviet combatants..."

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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      NOTA BENE closed!

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      Perhaps, "slava", perhaps. But then wouldn't you expect the "fittest" to survive??

      So far, we are just guessing. Maybe Alexei will let us know, but he doesn't frequent this forum, alas.

      The end result, I think we can agree, is worse than tragic . . . .

      Ed,

      While I certainly agree this is not a good thing for the collecting community at large, it may very well have come down to economics. All of us have noted this development with concern over the last few years. When I speak of economics, however, I refer not just to the explosive pricing of late but also to the more basic issue of supply/item availabilty. Even the "big boy" dealers don't have the stock they did just a few years back.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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      Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory - Present Day Market Realities

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted · Edited by slava1stclass

      Slava,

      you do collect these and know probably more than me about them, but i just can?t see 15.000 Dollar for a Glory Trio, at least not yet and definately not from collector to collector (Remember the last two Trios, Dave tried to sell?).

      However, with prices increases like this (especially also for the COMMON stuff) the circle of soviet collectors will be very small soon and it will be hard to move anything soviet. Another American dealer told me, he lost a lot of customers already due to the high prices. So you probably have to be very lucky to find someone, who buys your Glory Trio in 2050 for the asking price of 125.000 Dollar then, if the prices continue to raise like the last three years... ;)

      regards,

      Gerd

      Gerd,

      I don't believe any of us could have predicted the market would have evolved in the manner it has over the past 15-16 years. As with anything else, there are different strata of collectors. Each strata operates within its own financial limits.

      For those purely interested in financial gain, the margins will still be tremendous if one "got in" early - even if a $15,500.00 (or higher) sales price is not realized.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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      Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory - Present Day Market Realities

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted · Edited by slava1stclass

      I wonder, if one of the Glory-trio owners out there really thinks, he will be able to sell his Trio for nearly the same price. And btw, that something dissappeares on CollectRussia does not automatically mean, its sold. There are pieces on conseignment and are withdrawn without being sold.

      I don?t see the purpose of this thread, honestly. Do you guys really think, your stuff is worth the same now? Who is able and more important willing to spend 15.000 Dollar on a Glory Trio? Not me, even if i had the money. I believe, there are just a handful of collectors, who would do that. Sure, there are the russians, but what, if they are tired of the this old stuff? I have heard Villas in Kitzb?hel are the new hit for rich russians. :rolleyes:

      You can take this as the whining of a poor collector, but i really think, you guys are dreaming, if you think, you can transer the CollectRussia price-level to your collection.

      Just my two euro-cents...

      Gerd,

      I concur - in part. Not everything that "disappears" from that site or similar sites necessarily equates to a sale. In general, however, I do not agree with your assumption that these items don't move - regardless of their pricing. Were that to be the case, dealers of Russian militaria would have disappeared some time ago as lack of demand would have spelled their doom. Neither they, nor others (think WW II German paraphernalia dealers here), would appear to be in jeopardy any time soon.

      Demand and pricing will always reach a certain equilibrium.

      As for laying out the cash, there are those in Europe who spend five to six times as much as a Full Cavalier set on high-end cars that lose incredible value the moment they leave the dealership. Go figure.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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      Full Cavaliers of the Order of Glory - Present Day Market Realities

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted · Edited by slava1stclass

      To all:

      A very fine example of a Category 4 Full Cavalier set currently available at a well-known NYC-area dealer. This is the first instance I've noted wherein a Full Cavalier set asking price has exceeded $15,000.00 - he is asking $15,500.00.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

      To all:

      Gone (see post # 14 above). It sure wasn't listed long.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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      Awards of the U.S. Navy Cross to Soviet Personnel

      in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations

      Posted

      To all:

      Does anyone know how many awards of the U.S. Navy Cross were made to Soviet personnel during World War II/The Great Patriotic War? I have a few period images which clearly show it being worn by Soviet naval personnel (a HSU among them).

      Fellow forum member emaier3 has documented 22 awards of the U.S. Navy's Distinguished Service Medal to Soviet personnel during this period, but had no knowledge of the Navy Cross figures.

      Thanks in advance.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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      Hero of Russia

      in Russian Federation

      Posted · Edited by slava1stclass

      I do not care much for Umalatove medals and although these have been discussed in other threads, why is a Lt Col. on active duty (I assume) wearing non official govenment awards on his uniform??

      I do not understand!!! What next..... a young man working at McD and having received dangly shiny bits of metal is going to wear them on his uniform a few years later! I know this is an exagaration indeed....

      Someone enlighten me please.

      Jim

      Jim,

      I agree with you. As an active duty officer he is wearing authorized military decorations and badges of the Russian Federation. Among them are: "Герой Российской Федерации, медали ?За воинскую доблесть? I степени, ?За отвагу?, другие медали."

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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      Hero of Russia

      in Russian Federation

      Posted

      To all:

      A very nice photograph of Lieutenant Colonel Gennadiy Vasilevich Tsatsorin. He was awarded the title Hero of Russia for valor in Chechnya.

      Note, too, that he wears wound stripes (red denoting light wounds) - a tradition carried forward from Soviet days.

      Regards,

      slava1stclass

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