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And here a detail of one of them

Here the insignia publiched in the Book "Les ordres Fran?ais" from L. Bourdier in 1927

Well, the society is still (mostly) alive, so I guess the only question is in what era the badges are made? Whether in the 1780s or the 2000s, a legitimate badge is a legitimate badge. Each state has its own design traditions, so, to the initiated, you can tell the difference. Although I am technically elegible I am not a member, as someone beat me to my ancestor!

Dear Ed

Yesterday I got a book about the Insigna, for one of the French members of the Society.

"The Insignia of the Society of the Cincinnati" written by Minnor Myers, Jr., Washington D.C., 1998.

The first part gives a history of the society and the Insigna

The second part gives a catalog of Varieties about 80 diverent fabrications, diveded in

-Eighteen century French Eagles

-Early American Eagles

-Later French Types

-Later American Types

Later American Types

- New York Style Eagles

- Tifany Styles

- The standard Eagle and other State Patterns

- Revival Designs

Has some one more information and phots of the insignia of the Society of the Cincinnati ?

The Insignia of the Society of the Cincinnati" written by Minnor Myers, Jr., Washington D.C., 1998.

I Have the book "

I olso fond some information on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Society_of_the_Cincinnati

So I like to see more from this beautifull Insigna, I saw some in the new exhebition of the Mus?e de la L?gion d'honneur in Paris.

Dear Chris

You can find some beautifull exampels and information on Forum insignes et M?dailles

nice looking

Guy

There is no lanyard for the order of the Royal Lion, Crown order and the order of Leopold II

The Lanyard of the Order of the African Star was for the collonial troops. The Belgian Soldiers who got the Commomeration Medal of the colonial war 1914-1917 where allowed to whear this Lanyard.

So the posibility exist that some belgian military who had been in the colonie ant the yser front got the Lanyard of the order of Leopold our War cross and the one of the African Star.

The combination of two lanyard is probably a fantasy, i ddin't find some information about it.

I think it can be the next person

The french General Raoul Monclar

http://www.ordredelaliberation.fr/fr_compagnon/686.html

Here the list of decorations as given on the site of the order of liberation

# Grand Croix de la L?gion d'Honneur

# Compagnon de la Lib?ration - d?cret du 1 er juin 1943

# M?daille Militaire

# Croix de Guerre 14/18 (11 citations)

# Croix de Guerre 39/45 (3 citations)

# Croix de Guerre des TOE (6 citations)

# M?daille de la R?sistance avec rosette

# M?daille des Evad?s

# M?daille des Bless?s (7 ?toiles)

# Croix du Combattant Volontaire 14/18

# M?daille Coloniale avec agrafes "Maroc 25-26", "Erythr?e"

# M?daille Comm?morative du Levant

# M?daille Comm?morative de Syrie-Cilicie

# M?daille Comm?morative de la Grande Guerre

# M?daille Comm?morative de la Victoire (Interalli?e)

# M?daille Comm?morative 39/45

# M?daille des Services Volontaires dans la France Libre

# Grand Officier du Dragon d?Annam

# Military Cross (GB)

# Commandeur de l?Ordre de l?Empire Britannique

# Silver Star (USA)

# Legion of Merit (USA)

# Commandeur de l?Ordre de la Couronne (Belgique)

# Croix de Guerre 14/18 (Belgique)

# Grand Croix de l?Ordre de Saint Olaf (Norv?ge)

# Croix de Guerre avec glaive (Norv?ge)

# M?daille Comm?morative Norv?gienne

# Virtuti Militari (Pologne)

# M?daille Comm?morative de Cor?e (ONU)

# M?rite Syrien

# M?rite Libanais

# Croix de Guerre Hell?nique

# Officier de l?Etoile de Roumanie avec glaives

# Military Merit Targuk avec ?toile d?argent (Cor?e)

# Grand Croix de l?Ordre Royal du Cambodge

# Grand Officier du Ouissam Alaouite (Maroc)

# Grand Croix de l?Etoile d?Anjouan (Comores)

My best regards

Guy

Not yet, as soon as it's published I guess Guy will post something on it! (@ Guy?)

It will be there hopely end of this year, the Royal Army Museum will do an exhibition about the Belgian National Orders and specialy about the 175 aniversery of the Order of Leopold. By that occasion normaly the book of our dear Pat will be Publiched, but first there will be a remake of the book of Ren? Cornet, about the l?gislation of the belgian orders, adapted by Pat, with beautifull pictures made by BC. So some day it will be there

But my book about the french Imperial orders would be first (no more command on that, ... only that it will be beautifull)

Not even going to comment on that...

Oops

Dear Erik

We will in february on that beautifull order I like it very mutch. But I still like the french name of the order

Guy

The Order of the Dutch Lion was cald in dutch "Orde van de Nederlandse Leeuw" in the south part of the kingdom of the Netherlands (1815-1830) (Now Belgium) was it cald "Ordre du Lion de Belgique" by the French speaking part. So you can have confussion. But the orders has been created as an Order of the Kingdom of the Netherlands in 1815 as a knight order for civilian Merit, earlier that year King Willem I created the "Militaire Willems Orde" (MWO) who was an order for Military merit.

After the independance of the sout part of the kingdom in 1830 (Belgium) The kingdom of the Netherlands (the North part) will hold his order system of the 2 orders created by king Willem I, who stayed as king of the Kingdom of the Netherlands after 1830.

See her a beautifull drawing of the order of the Belgian Lion out the book of A. Wahlen from 1844.

Nice discution

The link from the envelope is the ribbon that belonged to king Albert I Of Belgium, who recieved the Order of the crown from the Chah of Persia in 1926 by the state visite of the Chah of Persia to Belgium

http://www.klm-mra.be/klm-new/engels/colle...e_de_perse.html

here the link with the other envelopes

http://www.klm-mra.be/klm-new/engels/colle...bert/index.html

I think the link to the french non-official order is the correct one for the ribbon from the first post. This order exist olso in different classes knight, officer, compmander, etc...

I thinck it is the order of the Crown of Persia (Iran)

look even at this one

http://www.klm-mra.be/klm-new/engels/colle...ges/Image7.html

Dear Igor

take a look at

http://users.skynet.be/Belgian.militaria/russia.htm

My best regards

Guy,

Excellent. Do you have a list of these ? And what is the one missing ? Can't make it...

Cheers.

Ch.

Dear Christoph

I did a resarch ont hte website of the R?union des Mus?es Nationaux http://www.rmn.fr/ and found the next infotmation

http://www.photo.rmn.fr/cf/htm/CSearchT.as...R=500&New=T

Je n'ai pas plus de renseignements

Guy

Guy,

You are correct. Is there any evidence about the fact that NIII got this medal ? Any reason why showing the reverse of both medals ?

Cheers.

Ch.

Here the plate of decorations in the Chateau de Compi?gne of Napol?on III with his italian d?coration

I do not knw why they put the revers of the medals on the buste

Guy

Guy,

Thanks for the information. But, it does not seems like there is a cross in the middle of it ... Do you have any information about the fact that NIII got it ?

Cheers.

Ch.

Dear Chrisophe,

Ont hte Buste they are showing the back of the medal, the same for the french medal d'Italie

Guy

I can vaguely see it,

but couldn't it be something like a st helena medal ???

kind regards,

Jacky

The thirth one is the Italaian medal of Military Valor and NOT Saint Helena.

Dear friends

I visited the Museum of the L?gion of Honnor in Paris

it is FANTASTIC

You have to visit it, take a whole afternoon for it and if your compagnon would like to see something else than medals you can send here to visit the Museum d'Orsay (museum of fine art) the enterance is in front of the enterance of the Museum of the L?gion d'honneur

Dear friends

The Museum of the Order of the Legion of Honnor in Paris has a new look and will be open agian for the public the 22 Nov 2006 13: Hr

More information on http://www.legiondhonneur.fr

The museum has been opend last friday official by the president of the French Republic, Mr. J. Chirac

her you can see Some pictures

How it is made, the details of the craftmanship, etc...

I would even say the military one is made by Heremans and the civilian is made by Wolfers

"The shells and decorations fall randomly on the Juste and the unjust one"

O'Grady

I can't find the decoration belonging to the last Ribbon ( officers grade ) Does anyone have an idea?

It is from the order of Adolf of Nassau from Luxembourg

see website medals of the World

Nice list Guy,

Would it be possible to get a bigger picture of the decorations, it's quite tiny and I would love to see all those medals.

Kind regards,

Jacky

Sorry Jacky, I dont have a bigger photo of the medals of verdun, if you want a bigger photo you can asked it at the town of Verdun, here their website http://www.ville-verdun.fr/

The City of Amsterdam was awarded the Gold Medal of the City of Arnheim in 1946 "for the support of the Municipality of Amsterdam in the relief of the citizens of Arnheim after the plundering and destruction of houses by German occupiers from September 1944 to half of April 1945."

Erik,

do you olso have the arms of coats ot the town of amsterdam with the medal or a picture of this type of medal ?

Guy

Diksmuide (Diksmude) Belgium - flanders was the only belgian town who recieved the great Italian War cross in august 1922as ?citta heroica? by the duce of Aosta, send by Mussolini.