Stefan

Ah! Did you get it? I looked very nice. 👍

/Stefan

Great! Many thanks Johan  👍

Regards,

Stefan

Künker has withdrawn a couple of EKs now.

They've also made videos to some awards in the higher price range.

/Stefan

Hi!

According to the book "Finlands frihetskrig år 1918" (Theslöf, Ignatius, Palmén, Soikkeli, Grotenfelt, Nordenstreng), in book 4 on page 193, there were two officers from Norway that took part on the white side in Finland 1918.

I believe I've found one - Lieutenant Paul Holmeskog, Nylands Dragoner. I attach a picture from Harald Natvig's book - Holmelund is in the front.

But who can the other officer be? Anyone from Norway that know this?

There might be a book that can help out, but I don't have it: "Finland 1918 – Den finske borgerkrigen og nordmennene som var vitne til den" (Mårten Jentoft).

Regards,

Stefan

...but also Stålberg could be OK:

Stålberg; arméns rulla 1920:
GM tf, Pers LSO 2.kl, R R S:t St O 2. kl, Off Pers de l’Ip, Pers förtj GM 

I am not that good how the Persian orders might look like.

/Stefan

On 15/10/2021 at 14:35, larsb001 said:

Hi Jonas.

 

You're welcome to a private tour should you come to Copenhagen!

 

But it seems you're somewhat into the Bravery Medals, beautiful selection you have, do you know if it would be possible to ID these two groups?

 

The ribbon mounted one was bought from Mynthuset appr 30 years ago, at that time I was told they came from the estate of Hjalmar P:son Janek but I have ben unable to get this confirmed by photos, lists or other sources, is it something you have some info about? I believe they had his fullsize group as well which were sold before I visited them. I understand that very few, less than 5, were awarded with crown around 1890-1900? 

 

Regards, Lars

 

I don't know if this has been solved in a later answer but I also believe that the first mini medal bar might belong to Nyström. I found a notice in https://xn--portrttarkiv-kcb.se/advancedsearch

//Stefan

14 minutes ago, JohanH said:

The date for the 60th day order was May 19th 1918. 

 

And as I said, it was with swords according to the original list of awards to germans (not the day orders). 

Yes, sorry - I didn't read your text above 100%   🙂

/S

On 17/03/2023 at 15:51, PeterE1975 said:

…couldn’t resist geting another one!🫣

 

/peter 

Very nice indeed!  🙂

//Stefan

Here we go...

I found him in Mannerheim's Day order (dagorder) numer 60, page 2, §6.

"Följande Herrar Officerare, Deckofficerare och manskap tillhörande den tyska krigsflottan belönas för tapperhet och
rådighet med:
Frihetskorsets I klass:
Kontre-Admiral Hartog.

...

"

He got the first class of the liberty cross and I assume that it was with swords.

Regards,

Stefan

Really nice to have it in writing 👍

Have you been able to find out more aboue Stuerz? The German archives have done a lot of digitalizing of the regiment's lists.

Regards,

Stefan

Hello again,

Here is my largest mini bar collection for one person - Eric Allan Winge - that took part in the Finnish civil war 1918 and the Winter war.

/Stefan

Here is another miniature bar.

To a Swede in Finland 1918 and one medal is for the conquest of Helsinki - not Tampere as one would think!

That leads us to that the man that got it most certainly served at the Swedish legation in Helsinki.

But as JohanH recognize above - the lists doesn't always fit the medal bar 🤬

My list of people that were there in Helsinki 1918 is so far:

Karl Sigurd Fredriksson af Ekström
Nils Leon Jaenson
Henrik Leonard Lagerlöf
Knut Karl Folke Malmar

...but their decorations do not fit the one below. Some of the foreign orders can come from the nations that they helped out during 1918 in Helsinki or from a attache career after 1918.

So, any more suggestions?

Regards,

Stefan

Aha, that's great that you got the red cross from a list. Is it from 1918 of WW2?

Otherwise I would have had a couple of runner's up for you  🙂

I found this text regarding his wife Emy (since they lived on Lidingö):

"Varje hemvärnsområde i landet har en egen fana, den tre tungade
med hemvärnsemblemet i toppen. Som en erinran om att vår frihet
endast kan bevaras, om alla i sann guds förtröstan möts för att
trygga hemorten, brukar man de ponera sin f ana i hemkyrkan så
också i Lidingö. Fanan överlämnades i Lidingö kyrkas vård den 26
september 1943 och har sedan dess sin plats intill predikstolen.
Vår fana tillkom genom en gåva av dåvarande kårchef en i Lidingö
Lottakår, Emy Hildebrand. Den överlämnades till oss av prins
Gustaf Adolf vid en hembygdsfest på Bredablicksberget
valborgsmässoafton 1941."

And another one:

"Den 9:e november 1939 var dåvarande rikslottachefen fru Maja Schmidt här ute på
Lidingö. Hon klargjorde for oss en lottakårs arbetsuppgifter och hennes ord förklingade inte
ohörda. Enhälligt beslöts av de 100 församlade Lidingö- kvinnorna a en lottakår skulle bildas på
vår ö. Fru Emy Hildebrand blev kårens initiativrika och handlingskraftiga förste ordförande."

//Stefan

1 hour ago, JohanH said:

 

I went through a lot of different Rullor and he is a perfect match in 1950 (if I remember correctly, it could have been a earlier year). I still have not found any one else that fits. 

 

Yes, I know that feeling  🙂

//Stefan

I found out this about Hildebrand...

HILDEBRAND, GUSTAF Yngve. Tandläkare, Lidingö. F. 15 jan. 95 i Jonsered (G. o. B.). Föräldrar: kassör Gustaf Svenson o. Anna Hildebrand. 
Stud.ex. 13, CTH 14, tandläk.ex. 18, "Doctor of Dental Surgery" 20, försv. akad. avhandl. f. med. dr:s grad 31, div. stud. o. kurser i utl. 17-27. Sjukh, tandläk. Mounds Park Sanat. St. Paul 20, skoltandläk. Kungsholms folksk. Sthlm 22, ass. Tandläk.inst. 21-23, laborator sed. 25. Medl. red.nd f. Sv. tandläk.tidskr. 22-26; sekr. Sv. tandläk.sällsk. 25-26. 
RNO, RVO (33), FFrK4kl.

Ref: Kungliga vasaorden 1944.

Hildebrand, Gustaf Yngve, Odont.D., Professor,
KNO, RVO, KFinlLO, RFinlVROlkl, RNS:tOO1kl, FFrK4kl, 
LFS, f. 95. (Lidingö.)
(LFS = Ledamot av Fysiografiska sällskapet i Lund)

Ref: Ordenskalendern 1958/59

...so I guess it might still be open for further research?

Does the silver medal have any information on the back?

Cheers,

Stefan

Hi...again - not every day that you can have some hours for yourself  🙂

I have some miniature bars too.

Here is one from Nils Kindberg (1892-1984) at the Swedish airforce from the early years.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Kindberg

//Stefan

Hi!

I bought this little group a year ago and I thought it would be interesting to do some research about it.

For some reason the Swedish coppersmith Nils Johan Alfred LIDBOM (1880-1964) went to the Belgian Congo and served there between 1905-1930 (according to the auction text).

He was decorated:

The Service Star, in gold. (from what I believe it should be)
The Royal Order of the Lion, in gold.
The Commemorative Medal for the Congo.

With the group was his navy badge and a commemorative medal. Can anyone enlighten me regarding these two?

I actually found his name in an article in L’ECHO BELGE, 1918-01-24:
https://nieuwsvandegrooteoorlog.hetarchief.be/en/pid/mk6542kg5q
“11-17 novembre 1917. Lois, arrêtés royaux et actes du couvernement. Ministère des colonies. Ordre Royal du Lion. - Nominations. Voulant donner un témoignage de Notre bienveillance aux personnes désignées ciaprès; La Médaille d’Or de l’Ordre Royal du Lion est décernée à:
…
Lidbom, N.J.A., contremaître de la Marine”

And when google translates it:

“11-17 November 1917. Laws, royal decrees and acts of government. Colonial Ministry. Royal Order of the Lion. - Appointments. Wishing to give a testimony of Our benevolence to the persons named below; The Gold Medal of the Royal Order of the Lion is awarded to:
…
Lidbom, N, Navy Foreman”

He is also mentioned in L'indépendance belge, 1917-12-22, with the same list.
https://nieuwsvandegrooteoorlog.hetarchief.be/en/pid/6q1sf2n81p

In the newspapers there are several more persons listed that got the award and I found some more Swedes, Finns etc. I will try to compile the list of names and post it here. When you download the papers you get XML-pages with the text, but my own OCR program did a better job.

Regards,

Stefan

Meanwhile...I compiled a list of NCO:s from Rulla 1922 that got the Russian silver medal. I hope it can help you match the Lingiaden medal later.

Rulla 1922
I.1
SAHLBERG, Ernst Leo; 1877-06-29; fanjunkare; SM, RS:tAOSM; Bat.adj., Vap.und.off.
HÄÄGER, Martin; 1873-08-31; fanjunkare; SM, RS:tAOSM; Kfk, Tjänstgör i värnpl.sekt.
PERSSON, Vilhelm Reinhold Eugén; fanjunkare; 1880-02-17; SM, RS:tAOSM; Reg.väbel, Kasernuud.off
BECKMAN, Gustaf Valdemar; 1886-12-11; fanjunkare; A skm, RS:tAOSM; Fvex, 8. komp.
FOGBERG, Oskar Alfred; 1869-05-22; fanjunkare (reserven); SM, RS:tAOSM.

I.2
NYQUIST, Erik;1882-07-01; fanjunkare; R skm, Stockh sfb S M, RS:tAOSM; Suppl. i försv,väsendets lönenämnd, Kulspr.komp.
ALMÉN, Karl Georg Sigfrid; 1880-06-08; fanjunkare (reserven); RS:tAOSM.

I.10
JANSSON, Knut Gustaf; 1884-06-09; fanjunkare; RS:tStOSM; Kfk, Köksförest. å Malma hed.
REHN, John Theodor; 1882-03-29; fanjunkare; RS:tStOSM; Sjukv.serg. o. sjukv.förr.und.off.
FALK, Carl Johan; 1884-07-15; fanjunkare; RS:tStOSM; Bat.adj.
ENGSTRÖM, Nils Theodor; 1881-02-04; sergeant; RS:tStOSM.

K.2
CHRUZANDER, Axel; 1877-03-13; fanjunkare; SM, St s g, RS:tAOSM; Livskv.
DAHLSTRÖM, Carl Oskar; 1888-11-27; sergeant; RS:tAOSM; Furageuppb.man
STEN, Harry Alfred Edmund; 1889-03-12; sergeant; RS:tAOS M, Mil. idrm s, Idrm g; Vap.und.off.
 

//Stefan

Great Johan,

then I put my research on hold  🙂

Regards,

Stefan

On 23/10/2021 at 12:29, JohanH said:

Here are a few more.

 

Unknown NCO. Probably a navy guy since alot of russian medals went to naval personnel. 

 

Hi!

The Russian Tsar visited Stockholm in 1909 and many awards were handed out. So this could be to a NCO in the receiving regiment - one of the Stockholm regiments at the time.

Regards,

Stefan

On 27/11/2021 at 10:39, JohanH said:

The first one probably belonged to a Swedish doctor who made some effort in/for Finland during the war. 

A quick search gave me a possible name that I need to look up further. 

 

 

Any year on the back of the Finnish red cross medal?

Could also have been a doctor serving in 1918 and then helping out the Finns in Sweden during WW2?

I'll see what I can find...

//Stefan

What a book - good work!

I'm enjoying it now with a cold G&T  🙂

285 different medals/orders...284 to go  😅

Regards,

Stefan

2 hours ago, JapanX said:

 

Sorry Stefan, I don`t currently own a copy of this book.

 

 

No, only generals, admirals, staff and senior officers.

 

Regarding St.George weapon see https://asiamedals.info/forums/golden-weapon-for-bravery-st-georges-weapon.761/

 

Best,

Nick

 

Yes, now I understand - thanks  🙂

Really good site 👍 

/Stefan

On 20/01/2014 at 16:28, JapanX said:

Second one

 

В. М. Шабанов

Военный орден Святого Великомученика и Победоносца Георгия.
Именные списки 1769-1920.

Биобиблиографический справочник.
М., «Русскiй мiръ»

2004

 

 

 

Cheers,

Nick

Nick, sorry for bothering you again 

Do you have this book?

I found its content list online and there is a chapter with "Alphabetical list of holders of the Order of St. George and the St. George Arms, awarded during the Civil War of 1918-1920" (Google translate from "Алфавитный список кавалеров ордена Св. Георгия и Георгиевского оружия, награжденных в период Гражданской войны 1918-1920 гг.").

Could the "St. George Arms" be the cross given to the lower ranks?

There were a couple of Swedes that served in the Northwest Army that I would like to see if they are mentioned there. Also an Otto von Knieriem got a cross during the civil war in the Northwest Army - he was in the staff of General Goltz and also later worked in Stockholm during WW2.

Regards, Stefan

1 hour ago, JapanX said:

You will not find him in any lists of St.George order cavaliers since he was awarded (as corporal) with Badge of Distinction of the Military Order of Saint George /known after 1913 as St.George Cross) that was established in the February 1807 decree of Emperor Alexander I as a reward for  lower ranks (soldiers, sailors and NCOs).

Thanks for the info - yes, I started to think it was that way.

Are there any public lists available for those recipients in the Napoleon wars?

//Stefan

On 20/01/2014 at 16:19, JapanX said:

You have two choices

 

First will be this book

 

Григорович Н.И., Степанов В.С.
В память столетнего юбилея Военного ордена Святого Георгия
Типография Скарятина В.Д.
1869

 

 

 

 

Hi Nick!

Do you know of a PDF version of this book? It's so old so I guess the copyright is no longer valid. I would like to OCR-scan it so I can search in it.

Regards,

Stefan

Hi!

I am trying to confirm some of the Swedes that got the russian St George cross in 1813 - but I can't find them.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_över_mottagare_av_För_tapperhet_i_fält

I found the first book mentioned above online:

https://kp.rusneb.ru/item/reader/v-pamyat-stoletnego-yubileya-voennogo-ordena-svyatogo-velikomuchenika-i-pobedonosca-georgiya-1769-1899-g

But I can't find "Anders Fast" in 1813 that should have its last name spelled as "Фаст" in russian. Is the book mentioned above about the order of St. George or about the cross of St. George?

Regards,

Stefan