eitze

Hello Chris,

with decree of 19.03.1907 Kasier Wilhelm II. endowed the SWA-Denkm?nze and 11 bars.

These were:

- Herero-Land

- Onganjira

- Waterberg

- Omaheke

- Gross-Namaland

- Karas-Berge

- Gross-Nabas

- Auob

- Nurudas

- Nossob

- Oranje

With a new decree of 11.11.1908 Kasier Wilhelm II. added 3 new bars and changed "Nurudas" into "Narudas":

- Omararuru

- Fahlgras

- Toasis

Last bars (Kalahari 1908) was added on 05.08.1912.

The first 11 bars were created together with the medal. So I think you should get both awards - the medal and the fitting bar(s), at the same time ???

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eitze

He`s got another one, also with Belgian orders, on auction.

I wondered already yesterday, when I saw the Spangen on epay

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eitze

Hello,

if they are not known to you, you should try to get the books of Walter Nuhn (Bernard & Gaefe Verlag). He has written about the German Colonial Warfare.

The titles are:

- Sturm ?ber S?dwest, 1997 (Hereo-Aufstand, 1904)

- Feind ?berall-Guerillakrieg in S?dwest, 2000 (Nama-Aufstand, 1904-08)

- Flammen ?ber Deutsch-Ostafrika, 1998 (Maji-Maji Aufstand, 1905/06)

- Kolonialpolitik und Marine, 2002 (Die Rolle der Marine bei der Gr?ndung und Sicherung des deutschen Kolonialreiches 1884-1914)

These books are really helpful for the collector of German Colonial Decorations

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eitze

Hello,

don`t know if there is a forum or if they are faked, but here you`ll find a book about Sanke cards:

http://www.naval-military-press.com/FMPro?...et.htm&-new

Type in "Sanke" and you find:

WORLD WAR I GERMAN AVIATORS: The Sanke Cards

Charles Woolley

For the first time in eighty-five years, the famous Sanke Postcards of World War I Imperial German Aviators have been reproduced.Clear, large scale copies of all known and highly collectible Sanke personality photo postcards produced... More info

? 55.00

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eitze

@ Laurence

I think so.

The baton (without R ) was made of .900 silver by the firm of "Braca Knaus" (Zagreb or Agram as it was called that time), the manufactorer of almost all Croatian decorations and badges.

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eitze

And here are the pictures of the barton and case.

This set was offered by Hermann Historica, Auction October 1997.

The asking price was 85.000 DM and it was, of course, not sold

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eitze

Hello,

here you see a photo of Marschall Slavko Kvaternik with the neck order of the "Eisernes Dreiblatt" and EK I..

In his hands you can see the Croatian Marschall Barton, which was awarded by the Poglavnic Dr. Ante Pavelic on 13. April 1941, the day when he was made Marschall and Chief of the Croatian Army.

Man ... those two dudes would fit right in with the Russian Mafia

Darrell you are right.

That were my first thoughts, when I saw the 2 pictures - especially the one of Gen. Wardak and his sunglasses

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eitze

But after all the laughing the sad question is: who the hell is going to bid on such rubbish

Even if I am not a serious collector, but I`m still a collector. That means I should have a little background information about the sphere I`m interested in !!

I can`t believe this

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eitze

Hi ,

all gold pieces I know do have also golden swords

So perhaps someone thought a golden medal with swords is better than without!

But as we know, the one without swords is more rare than with .

Numbers from the Efler book:

- golden medal .....265

- same with X ......412

So remove the X and you have a lttle treasure

Here you can see my X-piece.

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eitze

Thank you so far.

Beside all this nobody knows, if the photo was part of the original lot.

On the bigger pictures I can`t find anything wrong on the rim with the perls, but you never know especially on ebay

In the next auction of the "Hanseatisches Auktionshaus f?r Historica" on 11.08.2006 you can also find a silver medal of the Star of Brabant (Lot 1904) for 300 Euro.

Below you can see the picture from their homepage:

http://www.hanseatisches-auktionshaus.de/index1.html

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eitze

Hello,

what do you think of the 2-piece medal bar with the Medal of the Order Star of Brabant ??

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewIt...mMakeTrack=true

There are a lot of copies of these medals on the market.

Is this a original one ??

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eitze

This piece was ordered by me directly at the "Kleiderkasse der Bundeswehr", twenty years ago when I was a member of the German Airforce.

Unfortunately I was a beginner in collecting ODM and so I didn`t know nothing about the order of wearing

You see a RK with EL, but no EK 1 or 2 !!!

But the guys at the Kleiderkasse mounted everything you ordered, without asking

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eitze

Hi,

here`s a group to a Kriegsmarine-Member: Ribbon Bar and Chain.

Greetings eitze

If you have a shiny gilt or the above brown clasps, with this laser-made letters which all look the same - caution

Here you see a piece which I bought via ebay two years ago for 166 Euro

I `ve sent it to D. Niemann for a "Expertise" and he certified, that it is a "Original" - but beware: this clasp is definitly a FAKE !!!

After I bought it, the seller offered several other pieces - all in the same design and also another "Ponape" clasp

So I have paid for my stupidity and learned for the future

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eitze

You have to be very careful if you want to buy German Colonial items on ebay.

I think over 90 % of the medals and clasps are crap

Here you see two examples sold last year.

The first went for 167 Euro and the second for 113 Euro.

And the reverse:

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eitze

Here we got Oldenburg: Haus- und Verdienstorden, Ritterkreuz 1. Klasse - obverse

And reverse:

And here are some pictures I got today from Mr. Zeige.

Hessen-Darmstadt: Philippsorden, Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse - obverse

Henry the Lion is one of the finest orders I know.

It would exactly fit into my showcase

But I think you won`t get it below 1000 Euro

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eitze

I have all the medals, now I need the actual spange hardware to mount them. If anyone has any good ideas as to where I could find this, or how I can make it myself, I'd be very grateful for suggestions.

Hello,

not so easy to get spare plates

I think the only way is ebay - sometimes these are offered single or in groups. But beware, often they become expensive. These pieces are sought after by many collector`s to complete groups.

In the current Germany Army it is no longer common, to wear such a big "Ordensspange".

As far as I know, there is only one firm left here who mount such groups:

http://www.a-bender.de/Home.html

And although the homepage says, that they are official supplier, they do not sell decorations and accessories directly to private customers

So make it yourself or wait on ebay !!

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eitze

And second the enclosed letter (= ?bersendungsschreiben):

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eitze

Hello Jacques,

as you wish, I`ve uploaded the documents in this new thread

First the preliminary document:

Let's see if you can figure this one out

KR

Peter

Nice - this should be the shop or istitute of the late Dr. Kurt-G. Klietmann, called "Die Ordenssammlung".

It looks like he mounted with his own buttons

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eitze