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found out how to attach, quite easy actually!http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2011/post-1207-0-19270700-1324465692.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_12_2011/post-1207-0-70961300-1324465720.jpg

Good morning gentlemen, I would like some comments on this white enamel eagle, these are scans, I will post actual photographs when all 36 frames are used up. why is it white? why is the eagle facing Dexter? have yet to see another one on any threads I have found.

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Pikestaff

Um, cannot access 'my pictures' through the media section! anyway, any help without actualy seeing the 1st class medal?

Known as a 'waffenrock' also worn at weddings, funerals, christenings, etc. not just for parade.

That heer belt buckle, any paint on it anywhere? in any case, yes, the detail is terrible, the buckles coming out of china have more detail, and paint! I have several heer buckles made that way, and from China, the china ones have a lot more detail.

Those shoulder straps could be for a civilian employed by the German army, who were allowed to wear uniforms, in this case, a Beamten general, the shoulder straps are configured to wear on a white summer tunic, they slot into the shoulder seam, then the screw in buttons hold them in place.

Just thought I would add this scan of reproduction insignia, give collectors an idea of what is out there these days.

some people just cannot afford the mind numbing prices asked for on original items, some people just want to display something different,

Thank you.

Pikestaff

hello, I did in fact get a refund, I'll be a whole lot more careful in future.

thanks all

Pikestaff

Well, good luck.

Anything SS should be treated with enormous caution.

Thank you.

Pikestaff

Hello again, Royal mail says its progressing through the system! a month, and still not delivered, I'll have to go back to their website and find out who to ask what's going on.......

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Pikestaff

Hello all, an update, royal mail now says item was delivered on 15/6/2010 (just contacted 'signed for' office this morning), but no word from Andrew, I'll have to wait for my credit card statement see if he has reimbursed me or not.

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Pikestaff.

Hello again, Royal mail says its progressing through the system! a month, and still not delivered, I'll have to go back to their website and find out who to ask what's going on.......

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Pikestaff

hello, I emailed him first, and sent the bar 'to be signed for' I have not yet gone on the PO website, will do it this morning.

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Pikestaff

I hope you kept a proof of posting or sent it via registered means?

Did he ask you to return it to him?

Did you pay him via paypal?

Keep us posted. Any problems let ud know.

Kind regards

Pierce

Hello all, once more. No reply as yet from Andrew at UK Militaria, must find the P.O. docket see if he has received the ribbon bar,I hope he did, I could do with a re-fund.

bye for now.

Yes, I emailed Andrew (uk militaria) straight after reading these posts.

once again, many thanks to all.

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Pikestaff

Contact the seller before posting it back, stating you require a refund as the bar was sold to you as an original (i assume) and is in fact a fake.

Also post it back via recorded post or get a proof of posting.

Best of luck

Pierce

Yes, I emailed Andrew (uk militaria) straight after reading these posts.

once again, many thanks to all.

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Pikestaff

Okay, thanks for the heads up, I'll post it back to UK MILITARIA Monday and ask for a refund.

many thanks

Pikestaff.

hello all, hope this is the right place.

I recently bought this from UK MILITARIA, the strange thing is, as soon as I put the order in, the pictures and legend were deleted from the sight, other items marked as sold remand on site.

highest regards

Pikestaff

No, I would'nt restrict this to firemans rather than police, & perhaps the hook & eye scales have come adrift from the ends of the chin scales, leaving the leather strap & buckle which would be there as well as the "hook & eye".

I'd leave the chin scales well alone, don't replace the leather.

If I were you I'd ask a moderator to move this thread into "Imperial Germany" in order to get more contributions, & post a new "wanted" thread here.

2 chinscales have fallen off, 3 are missing anyway, so I think something ought to be done, the rest will fall off eventualy.

How do I ask a moderator?

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Pikestaff

Just put one thread in the middle, through original holes, to hol;d the peak in place for display? Sounds like it would leave a gap between peak & shell.

I suppose what you do is down to how you view the state of the helmet, if it's too far gone to carefully preserves & more a case of do what's necessary to make it look the part, I suppose.

Ah, I've only just noticed that your helmet does have a bead around the rim, complete with correponding cut-out in the rear spine, as per the helmet in the link, & as per, without a rear spine, my fire helmets.

Yep, just taken it out of the display cupboard, bead is there alright, the front peak rivets are not later additions, so peak and dome are comtemperary[wheres the spelling thingy?] So it could be a firemans helmet then? is that why the chinscales join with a buckle instead of the 'hole and hook'?

Some of the chin scale steel 'rivits' are falling apart now, they are so rusty the brass scales just drop off, make completly new leather backings? I have plenty of nice soft 'orthopedic pearl' leather, thin too.

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Pikestaff

The seperation of the peak & helmet shell don't necessarily mean that they were'nt mates originally as the leather is liable to have shrunk, I have a pikelhaube whish I'm happy is original in terms of peak & shell, but the peak hangs down so far at the front that theres blue sky visible between it & the shell.

Let's see if the people who really know about these things join in discussion.

I hope so too! the thing is with the peak and shell is that if I try to sew them back to-gether as they are, the end rivits will be in the wrong place, it looks like the shell would have to be stretched to fit the peak.

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P

Just an observation - the helmet that you have has the "normal" front & rear peak arrangement, whereas the one with white metal fittings on the web site I posted the link for in post 2 has the raised bead of leather at the loin of peaks & body, a feature on one or two of the fire helmets I have.

hello, perhaps that join is a feature of firemans helmets? and only for firemans helmets? from the way the peak on this helmet is hanging on, I think it might not be original to it, as the 'dome' has shrunk well away from the peak, and no bits on peak sewing cotton remain anywhere, as well as being a 'wreck. its aslo a 'parts' helmet?

Contact Tony on his site Kaiser's Bunker

If he doesn't have one, he'll most probably be able to direct you to one.

P.S. Enjoy his web site, everything you'll see there is his!

Hello, what a fantastic site! I have added it to 'my favorites'.

Many thanks for that

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Pikestaff

Contact Tony on his site Kaiser's Bunker

If he doesn't have one, he'll most probably be able to direct you to one.

P.S. Enjoy his web site, everything you'll see there is his!

Not my subject, although I have 9 army pikelhauben & 4 or 5 fire service, all low end pieces, but are you sure it's a police helmet, rather than army?

I have much a battered Bavarian helmet which was purchased as an officers, but I think it's probably a NCO's, I have to get a grip of that sometime.

Hello. according to all the sites I visited, its a Bavairan police helmet, shape of the spike, the rossette on the left hand side, all seem to point that way, nice pictures by the way.

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Pikestaff