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    Bilco

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    1. Well, I've bin an' gorn an' dun it!

      Liverpool Medals latest list had a Brazil Official Type 2 featured on it so, after careful scrutiny of the photos, I bought it! Here are the photos for you Gents to check over and give your expert opinions:

      Obverse ...

      brazil%20001-crop_zps7uvfc0kk.jpg

      ... and close-up ...

      brazil%20001-crop2_zps1ns9x7kk.jpg

      ... and reverse ...

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      ... and close-up

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      As far as I can see the medal exhibits the features of the genuine article: it's yellowish tone; obverse has feathers in the wings indistinct, leaves in the wreath flattish with central vein, initials J S  at the bottom of the ray at the 7 o'clock; reverse has sharply defined national arms, flat leaves in the wreath, distinct letters especially the G, and the proper diacritical marks on the C and A of Civilisacao.

      There are traces of guilding around the figure on the obverse. The pin for attachment to the jacket is of a type I haven't seen before.

      Of course, these medals aren't cheap, but the asking price compared well with other examples I've seen offered recently.  I won't have any pennies left in the medal fund for a while.

      Gentlemen, I await your verdict.

      Bill

    2. Well Peter, the lady at the Medal Office in Gloucester is not where the medals are made, while Rachel is at the Royal Mint in Llantrisant.

      I asked Rachel about the anomaly in her statement that the originals were engraved, and to confirm whether the new medals are impressed or engraved. She said:

      "You are correct in that the original medals were ‘impressed’ please accept my apologies for the incorrect terminology I used.

       

      For modern day medals which we engrave we use a ‘laser tip’ engraver, however to keep to more traditional methods of engraving we currently use a ‘pantograph’ for all WW1 medals."

      Bill

       

    3. On 25/11/2015 at 00:12, Gunner 1 said:

      There is now a Type III British officially-issued Great War Victory Medal that has been discussed on the Great War Forum.  It was issued in May 2015 (along with a BWM) to the next-of-kin of a British soldier whose BWM and VM had been returned by his mother and never re-issued.  Unfortunately it appears as if the issued medals (see below) do not look any better than some of the current reproductions.

      27 Greer May 2015 reissue copy.jpg

      I just received the following info about these WW1 medals from Rachel Evans at the Royal Mint:

      "There is no original medal stock from the period and therefore MOD requires new medals to be produced. Over the century that has elapsed since the cessation of hostilities the MOD has used different manufactures to produce these medals. The current manufacturer of First World War medals is The Royal Mint."

      Bill

       

       

    4. Continuing with my quirky Rumanian mis-strikes - this month's acquisition:

       

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      It's an unofficial Type 2, but the obverse is very flat - almost no details of the wings, no face for Victory. The reverse view shows that it's canted off to the right by about 10 degrees. Probably by the same maker as the one in my post #195, but that was a double strike - definitely needed better quality control.

      Bill

       

    5. Hi Gents,

       

      My first purchase of 2016 - the Unofficial Type 2, but without the designers names on obverse and reverse ...

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      It seems to be well made, some slight roughness, and in the hand there appears to be the remains of gilding around the design. There are no marks on the edge.

      I think this is what French collectors call an 'artisanal' version.

      Bill

       

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