Markgraf

Thak You Gentlemen!

On the back of the photo can be read a dedication : a mon grand [unreadable] and a signature: Howard.

In addition, a blue ink date stamp: 1944 JUNI 20 (I'm not sure that is contemporary).

On the shoulder title can be read "Royal Artillery". But the formation patch is for the Royal Canadian Artillery (attached to the First Canadian Army).

Is he British or Canadian?

The badges look like Royal Army Medical Corps or possibly a Yeomanry Regiment, shame he's not wearing a hat, that would ease ID'ing!

Officer of Artillery: Yes probably a RAMC Corporal.

The full picture:

I asked my colleague in the Hungarian Military Museum. According his opinion this is a rosette.

My mistake But surely not a veterinarian, because they have madder red collar.

The previous picture: the collar badge isn't winged wheel but a flaming grenade. I think he is an Austrian gendarme from the interwar period.

Ok, really confusing pieces - but more "star-like" than rosette IMHO

And these stars were handmade, available from various craftsman and various quality. For example a contemporary uniform-catalogue were two type officer star: with or without sequins.

On the pike gray tunic are stars, not rosettes.

Thierry:

http://www.hm-him.hu/rang/cd/1938/ and http://www.hm-him.hu/rang/cd/1944/ (works only with IE)

On the left side , under the Belföldi rendjelek, érdemjelek, dísz- és emlékjelek viselési sorrendje és rövidítésének megjelölése can you see the meaning of the symbols.

Signal Corps (?) soldiers with a Field Telephone Center approximately in the 1920's...I would be happy for any additional information!

Oops...

Thank You guys!

M

I bought this photo here in Hungary. On the back can be read the following inscription: Gibraltár 1938 IV. 12. (According the spelling the photographer was Hungarian.)

I would be happy for any further information!

You can find some latter volumes on the archive.org. Search the "Schematismus" word. For the name use the index, because the text search is unreliable.

The year 1891:

http://www.archive.o...usfrd02kriegoog

On the right solider under the frontline service chevrons can be seen a Chauchat-form patch. Is he an actual Chauchat operator?

Additional question: the collar numbers are regimental numbers or can be denoted other type unit (batallion, battery etc) - namely the left soldier is an artilleryman?

Thanks

M

Picture 1 and 2: between 1939 and 1945.

On the pic 1 the sergeant (őrmester) is WWI veteran, his first medal is probably a II. class Silver Bravery Medal.

The pic 2: Szakaszvezető (corporal) with Bronze Bravery Medal and I. class Fire Cross.

Thank You Chip!

Thanks Christer!

The back of the photo:

A cavalryman (probably dragoon?) armed with C96.

Any idea for the unit?

The publisher's hompage:

http://www.monarchia...1&id=69&oldal=1

Up in the middle see the Elérhetőség (Contacts) button for the e-mail adress.

The shop's introduction :

http://www.monarchiaerembolt.hu/index.php?inc=menu&id=1

Yes, Sallay's book is the most comprehensive and most recent work in this topic (and last but not least available). I've a dedicated one :)

An article about the M 1944 Qualification Badges:

http://lweidemannhv.powweb.com/images/MF%20FALL%202009.pdf

Yes, it is, nice find.

The rank - surely not for enlisted, because the bandage part (I' dont know the correct english name, sorry) was blue on the enlisted version. The silver lace denotes for NCO. It's only a presumption because sadly we have not regulation for this uniform type...

Mervyn: On the original tableau are 99 portraits - from these only seven without moustache (the tableau made in 1931).

As far as I know, the height of the collar must fit for the height of the neck (according the 1924 officer's regulation).

Btw I have a Belgian policeman portrait around 1900 - he has a much comfortable low standing collar.

Few months ago I was in Italy (in a small town in Lombardy), and the Carabinieri were very willingly for photography :)

Gondon: Thanks for the tip! I put it into my schedule.

Mervyn: Yes, this problem is also in Hungary. Btw the napoleonic Battle of Győr memorial vandalized by "metal collectors" in 2009 few months before the 200th anniversary. Fortunately the Policeman is still intact.

Just for fun:

Some intresting portrait from my police tableau. Six WWI combat veteran policeman, all of them are members of the Vitéz Order:

Gordon: No. I collect pre-1945 military (mainly uniform) themed photograps from Hungary and all over the World

The policeman uniform can be seen in the 1918-1948 exhibition (Piavétól a Donig, Dontól a Dunáig), together with other contemporary paramilitary uniforms (gendarme, scout, levente etc.)

A small photo from the museum's hompage:

http://www.militaria.hu/hun/image.php?url=../kepek/kiall/piavedon/piave018.jpg

I wasn't in the Police Museum yet

M

Markgraf,

Thanks for the interesting photograph. I've seen some repros of these caps in Budapest but never a real one. That would be quite a find.

Regards,

Gordon

Gordon,

Excuse me, I forgot the source of the photo: http://www.fortepan.hu/

A huge on-line photo colection with very intresting pictures.

In my collection is a police tableau but without helmets

These helmets are rare indeed - in the Hungarian Military Museum can be seen a real one on a fully-equipped police mannequin.

M

What a lovely helmet - they should re-adopt it for street duty - it would be as distinctive as the British helmet.

p.s. I see a number on the belt buckle. Was that the policeman's number - or, a unit number ?

It would be great - the recent hungarian police uniforms are terrible (but at least the amorphous baseball cap is no longer used)

The only "policeman" who wears today this helmet is a bronze statue in the city center in Budapest:

The numer on the belt plate is the service number (constables and NCO's only). Trough the big-size belt plates the contemporary slang called the policemen "tin bellys".

And a little extra:

Hungarian police helmet (so-called Panama helmet) 1947-50

Photo from here:

http://magyarrendor....um.org/content/

The on-line photo archive of the Hungarian Policeman magazine.