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These awards were gazetted in the Negeret Gazetta- a complete run of which (in English) I believe is in the British Library. Some war time awards however were not gazetted- as many -if not all- exile awards.
Hi Ulsterman. I'm not quite sure what a "negated Gazetta" is, but there exist a record of most recipients
From: http://www.ethiopian...decorations.htm #TheOrderofEmperorMenelikII
"It is probable that the design of the Order was influenced by the Montenegrin Order of Danilo which had passed into abeyance with the fall of the kingdom and its absorption into the United Kingdom of Yugoslavia. This Order was also made by Arthus-Bertrand in Paris."
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Hi North Denmark,
If you PM me, I have a possible recipient for that last bar.
/Michael
Thanks to Great Dane for Great Help. Without revealing the name of the recipient, I can say that the Order of the White Elephant is awarded before 1919. Japan X You're right about the metal, silver gilt but without marks :beer:
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The first Military Agent sash appears French assembled and the second one German made..... Your choice may depend on whether you have a French or German set. Even though it has no maker mark, I tend to think your set is of late French [1970s] manufacture based on the reverse finish, pin shape & crown attachment rivets.
Since the mid-late 1950s, at least, almost no sashes are made of 'real silk' in any case--usually they are rayon synthetic material often with a printed morie pattern. At best, silk on cotton is used.
Just to be sure. You think this might be French made: https://www.militari...NKNOWN_101.html
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922F. Many thanks for the useful information. I have visited the page "Crown Council of Ethiopia." I thought this order of Menelik II ended after Haile Selassie's death in 1974, but it continued into 1996 where the order was split in two. You're right about the metal, it is bronze gilt and no makers marks as you can see on the back.
Mark. Thanks for your link, I had never found this one as it is listed as unknown. It is very cheap but I do not believe it to be "real silk". I can see they have two types for sale, which one should I choose? https://www.militari...NKNOWN_101.html - https://www.militari...UNKNOWN_97.html
I had only found these solutions but they are too expensive, especially because I might be swapping my set
http://www.medal-medaille.com/product_info.php?cPath=54&products_id=8469
http://www.liverpool...ash-L23317.html
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North Denmark
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Hi North Denmark,
well it is 5th class (a.k.a. Member) of the Most Exalted Order of the White Elephant.
This one looks like it was made in silver and has nice hot enamel, so it's not from the last horrible vintages
I'd say this piece was made in 50s-60s and definitely before 1978 (when the Order was reorganized and the form of suspension was changed). Before 1978 5th class of this order should be the most numerous one (since the number of holders for this class was unrestricted as opposed to higher classes).
Hope that helps!
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Nick
Thanks Nick, you are a great help . I also have this version which is smaller 59*31.5 mm.There are also other differences as you can see. Is this an older type? (Order of the Dannebrog Christian X 1912-1947. Danish Red Cross Decoration of Honor 1916-1963)
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North Denmark
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Hi All
Can anyone tell me something about this order (78 mm), how old is it?
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North Denmark
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Dear Members
Please help me with this one. What type, what class and how old / rare is this order?
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North Denmark
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Hi All
I have this order that I would like to know more about. The star measures 83*78.8mm (123.5 grams). The badge 75 *49.2 mm. (48.8 grams). I've been told that this type was made in Paris by maker Arthus Bertrand. Hoping someone here knows more. How many Grand Cross were awarded (list of recipients), who manufactured the Order and how old it is. Please comment.
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North Denmark
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Dear members
I could use some expert help on this Knight Cross to the Order of the Dannebrog Christian X (1912-1947). Unmarked Hollow construction in gold (karat?) 61*30 mm. 12,6 gram.
In the middle the Danish Red Cross badge of Honour. Instituted 19. 2. 1916 with the H.M. King Chr.X's approval. Only 261 awarded. Unmarked in silver by royal court jeweler Anton Michelsen. If anyone knows how old the Order of the white elephant is, it would be helpful.
Please comment.
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North Denmark
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The cross is made from silver and gilt silver (the edge) with a gold center medallion.
The reverse has the engravings of the recipient's name and rank and the time and place for the act.
The decoration does not have to be returned after the recipient's death.
/Michael
Thanks Michael
Do you also know who designed the cross?
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Thanks for the good pictures. I have some unanswered questions about this new and beautiful decoration.
Is the cross made in gold, how does the reverse looks like and is the recipient's name engraved as on the British Victoria Cross?
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North Denmark
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Nice minis guys
North Denmark, are you sure noone fiddled with that second miniature bar (with the 2 Danish Dannebrog and the Dutch Oranje-Nassau)?
The Dannebrog Knight cross was awarded during Frederik VIII (1906-12) and the Dannebrog Silver Cross was awarded during Frederik IX (1947-72). That's a best case span of 35 years...
Of course it's physically possible, but quite unlikely since the Silver Cross was normally awarded as a "½ up" to a Knight who wasn't yet ready for a Commander, and normally done during the normal path of his career.
Maybe someone put the Silver Cross on as a placeholder, waiting for a Frederik VIII or Christian X version? The style of the bar suggests that the Frederik VIII Knight Cross is the original one for the bar.
But nice bars nonetheless
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I tried to look through my sources for a matching name for that lower bar in the glass frame, but no luck...
/Michael
Hi Michael
You are absolutely right. I have to look around for an older cross in silver, or I can swap the two Dannebrog crosses and let the silver come first (both orders had fallen off the bar then I got it, but still 35 years is a long time). Can you please tell in what time period this type of bar was used?
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North Denmark
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Dear Members
Please help me to date this order. I am also interested in the hallmarks, if anyone knows about them.
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North Denmark
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Hi north denmark
thats just amazing, do I see an icelandic Order of the White Falcon Knights Cross? Do you know who the ODM belonged to?
Hi David
The upper row in frame is composed by a previous collector. I do not know the recipient of the bottom row and the last medal is not correct. I still need to find the correct medal but I do not know the the Ribbon (It is not Order of St. Anna). Please help
And yes it is the Knight of the "Falke Orden" you see.
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North Denmark
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My wife's birthday gift to me :)
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Hi ccj
Here a few examples of modern copies of poor quality:
http://www.quarterde...ucts.php?cID=18
http://www.amazon.co...l/dp/B001HQ4674
Older copies are "rare" in commanders class.
I would recommend this site if you need replacement ribbon or sash: http://www.ribbonsshop.com/category/austria-hungary/
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North Denmark
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Hi All
The pictures shows the Ehrenzeichen II Class 1. republic in silver. I hope someone knows what the label on the bottom of the box means (it's certainly not the price I paid). Was the buttons on the back of the ribbon made from the factory?
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North Denmark
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Dear Members
I just want to draw attention to this order on auction:
This Order is clearly a Rote & Neffe copy (1960-1970), but is described as being from WW1. Be careful out there.
Best wishes
North Denmark
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Hi
Here an example of two different manufacturers. Left: G. A. Sheid. Right: V. Mayer's Söhne.
If anyone has examples of other manufacturers of these beautiful decorations, I would really like to see them. Rothe & Neffe has made the Verdiensstern but have they also made the smaller decorations?
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North Denmark
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Hi Elmar Lang
One last question. Is this order also a Rote & Neffe copy from the 1960-70 http://www.hermann-historica.de/auktion/hhm61.pl?f=NR_LOT&c=4042&t=temartic_O_GB&db=kat61_o.txt ?
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North Denmark
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Congratulations.
One of the world's most beautiful Orders!
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North Denmark
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Order of Navel Merit breast star
in Spain
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