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I'll be updating my website this weekend too...

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Hello,

Hard to tell with the portraits being so tiny.

Here is one that I always wondered about such as rank with the neat epaulettes.

circa 1790

example page

Hello,

Its an original drawing but I don't know who might have painted it. I've never seen another one like this item. He was a lucky fellow that his rear end wasn't fighting in Austria during this time.

I've been thinking of buying this book for a long time so this document gives me a reason to do so.

thanks,

barry

War Letters

Hello,

Here is my latest purchase.

Paris, May 20, 1809

Directed to my sweetness, Vernette

This is my portrait.

My dear,

There has been no shortage of all sorts of misery, but the greatest pain of all has been without a question our cruel separation that is always with me.

If fate puts the temperament in their hands, they may forgive their enemies, that they also have in front of their eyes the examples of their suffering, but above all that they look at the Son of God as they pray, and ask His Father for forgiveness of his enemies.

That’s all, my dear, the end of my message.

thanks,

barry

Hello,

What about double breasted uniforms? The one pictured above seems to have only one set of buttons. Would that tell the age.

thanks,

barry

One of the local pawn shops has a Thompson hanging on the wall behind the counter. Its the first thing you see when approaching the cash register. I don't think its for sell.

You'll never take me alive copper... :violent:

2) Did anyone think anyone else was going to STEAL any? (Armed guard.... )

Hello Rick,

I think someone is trying.

thanks,

barry

Thanks Hardy!

Hmmm!!!

thanks again,

barry

Hello,

I found this note behind the portrait in the frame. :unsure:

Hello Tom!

This is just a guess but maybe movie stills. I think sometimes they take photos before they shot the event. This way the director can show the actors what he wants while filming.

or combat training photos...

I'm most likely wrong...

1950's Sudan

thanks,

barry

Some more info...

Jakob Liegel

married

MARIANNA OR MARIA ANNA TONITZINN OR TONIZ

Marriage: 28 FEB 1802 Voelkermarkt, Kaernten, Austria

Husband Age at Marriage: 36

Wife Age at Marriage: 22

If this is him he would have been around 48 years old(1766-1814)

Nice Pics!!!

Is she a baddie or a goodie :cheers:

Hello,

Haupt. Liegel was probably taken prisoner in one of these actions in 1813. Maybe one day we'll get the answer.

The defense of the Napoleonic kingdom of Northern Italy, 1813-1814

By George F. Nafziger, Marco Gioannini

Action at Villach - 8/24/1813

page 31

The French took Hohenlohe-Bartenstein Austrian prisoners(250-300/ This number includes other regiments).

Action at Bassano - 10/31/1813

page 80

The French took Hohenlohe-Bartenstein Austrian prisoners (300/ This number includes other regiments).

Action at Vo - 11/10/1813

page 91

The French took Hohenlohe-Bartenstein Austrian prisoners (800/ This number includes other regiments).

Action at Brescia - 12/7/1813

page 116

The French took Hohenlohe-Bartenstein Austrian prisoners (100/ This number includes other regiments).

Thanks Hardy

I just knew that we could find Liegel.

It would seem that Leigel was taking part in action(Udine) in the Napoleonic kingdom of Northern Italy, 1813-1814. The Allies were fighting the French under Prince Eugene.

I'll have to hit the books...

The defense of the Napoleonic kingdom of Northern Italy, 1813-1814 By George F. Nafziger, Marco Gioannini

http://books.google.com/books?id=efhCkBhf7PIC&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=battle+of+udine+1813&source=bl&ots=9WDIsGEnti&sig=LmEzUGdHEnFJ09CAbysyB3sxcXs&hl=en&ei=-ghNS8SyKoj2NeCOgfoM&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBQQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=udine&f=false

thanks again,

barry

Wups-- I see NOW Hardy has Answered All in the OTHER thread, so don't need THIS one.

Thanks Rick :cheers:

Thanks Hardy...

Barry, nice portrait of an interesting man.

Jacob Liegel born in Sankt Veit an der Glan, Kärnten, Austria

Baron von Kaisersteinischer Werksverweser (he was an administrator for the Baron Kaiserstein before he was given a commission)

Landwehr-Hauptmann Liegel commanded the first company of the I. Klagenfurter Landwehrbataillon in 1808 (the picture depicts him as such)

Then became Hauptmann of the Infanterie Regiment König-Wilhelm-der-Niederlande.

Hauptmann Liegel was wounded and captured in 1813, later (no date given) he died at the front near Udine of Dysenterie

Hello,

I've been trying to figure out what is written on the back of a frame.

Here is the topic in the Nap Section:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=41762

Jacob Liegl/Liegel

Klagenfurter Landwehr - Company 1

Hauptmann Infantry Regiment

König Wilhelm I Niederland

thanks,

barry

I was hoping that it would be a small number. Since I don't have any other information on the Russian Officer it might be impossible to indentify him. I'll try my black/blue light and see if any writing appears on the portrait. Longshot!!!

thanks,

barry

Here is a site with some info

http://www.napoleon-series.org/research/decorations/c_pourlemerite.html

pargraph 7

A large number were awarded to Russian Officers on the first anniversary of the Battle of Leipzig.

11 April and on 13-18 October

note 6

Unknown Russian Lt awarded 11/12/1813

Hello,

Is their a list for the Russian Officers that received this award during 1813-1814(or maybe after the campaign).

Here is a link to the Russian Officer:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=40226

thanks,

barry

Hello,

I emailed the author of the book pictured in post #5. In this huge world the author only lives about 1 hour from me. This is what he sent me after looking over the portrait.

Dear Barry,

I hope you had a wonderful New Year weekend. I did some research on the portrait and here are some of my findings:

The portrait was most probably painted between 1828 (based on uniform details) and 1832 (considering the lack of Virtuti Militari and Order of St. Stanislaw); this is further supported by the fact that all Russian officers were allowed to wear mustaches in 1831.

The portrait is of man wearing a general's uniform, with the following medals: Order of St. Anna (2nd class, but without a star that accompanied this class), Prussian Pour le Merite (which suggests he served in 1813-1814 campaigns), Order of St. George (4th class), Order of St. Vladimir (4th class, without swords but with a bow which indicated military exploits), two medals (too abstract but most probably for 1812 and 1814 Campaigns), and a small sign for XX years of service.

I am afraid it will be difficult to find out his name without any additional details.For example, are there inscriptions on the portrait? What is the portrait's provenance?

With best wishes,

Alexander Mikaberidze, Ph.D., INFR

Is their a list for those who received the Prussian Pour le Merite (which suggests he served in 1813-1814 campaigns)????

thanks,

barry

German Infantry Regiment 26

Commanded by...

1814 Wilhelm, Prinz von Oranien-Nassau.

then he became...

1815 Wilhelm, König v. Niederland, FM.

or

William I Frederick/ William I of the Netherlands

Now let see what I.R. 26 did in 1814-1815.

His son commanded the Netherlands troops at Waterloo. I wonder if Hauptmann Jacob Liegl/Liegel was there too.

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