ksg

Here is another conversion. Have seen several 2. class converted to 1. class, but never the other way around. The cross is 800 marked.

(Have posted a 2. class converted to 1. class in the 1939 section )

Kjell

I?m a bit found of these conversions. Even if it?s?kind of a "spoiled" cross, there is more of personal story to it.

Kjell

Hello

A nice set of new form bars to the iron cross. The first class ones with the longer pins are of later manufacture, and the one with the shorter pin is an earlier one.

Hello David

Thanks , I always thought it was the other way around...

Regards,

Kjell

Interesting sticks! Thanks for sharing!

The dagger somehow reminds me about a Scottish Dirk.... Coincident ?

Kjell

I don't think that there is a "usual configuration" for females

Here is a picture of Hanna Reitsch

The way of wearing the cross and ribbon here, is when it?s just have been awarded. The ribbon is just tuck into the ribbon hole. The same way as for men.

Here is another picture of (Hanna Reitch), showing the normal way of wearing it. Here also whit the 1. class cross and the pilot clasp for women.

The one I have posted is, as far as I know, for use parade uniform

Kjell.

I have two crosses where the bar are attached to the Iron Cross, both identical. I have also included two crosses who are identical to the crosses used whit the bars. ( All crosses have a magnetic core). Does anyone know if these were made by other manufacturers?

It?s difficult to see in the pictures, but the needles appears to have been soldered to the cross after the bars have been attached. If the bars were to be removed the hinge would stick just a bit over the upper arm.

I always thought bars were attached to complete crosses. Anyone know more about this?

Kjell

Four 1. class bars. The upper one and the one soldered to the Iron cross seems to be identical. Second bar is a hollow pressed version. difficult to se in my pictures but the details are not so clear as the first one.

The last I sepose is a late variation .

I have also seen another one, a mix between the first and the third one. It to had a big needle, not as long as the first. This was also, as the third one, soldered to a separate bar before it?s soldered to the 1. class bar.

Reverse. Again the upper one is less shiny than the two other. The pins are also soldered more nicely to the bar.

Tree 2. class bars from my collection. The two lowest appear to be similar. The upper one is a bit crisper in appearance, even if the paint job is not the best. The two other is also more shiny.

I have shown these before some time, but I was not able to find where.

Original picture of Greta Grafenkamp, that came whit the EK and lapel ribbon.

The auction house I bought this from sold it as Greta Grafenkamp original award. But....I only got their word for it.

Newer the less it?s a nice example of a EK II (hallmarked 100) whit a ladies bow.

The award document is a copy.

Kjell

Nothing special, but the only hallmarked I got.

Sorry, bad pictures, but it?s an M.

Kjell

Fantastic collection, and I agree whit the rest. Probably the best display I have ever seen !

Thanks for sharing !

Kjell

Post some details such as names, ranks, numbers from medals & documents etc, & it's easy for us to carry out some basic research on individuals.

Hello

Thank you very much , that would be great!

Medals; 15720 P.T.E. S.A.FOSTER MGC

ID bracelet; 2. (scratsed over) L.T. J.H.WARE MGC C.E.

Single dog tag; 47782 A.TURNER C.E. MMGC.

Dog tags; 151389 FINN A. MGC. ID 104 B N CE ( 104 BNWD on on the other )

Best Regards,

Kjell

Do you research the medals etc?

I admit I have not been doing much research so far. Have googled the names, but the only thing I have some certain information about is the "dead man penny".

My collection, except for the Vickers, have been collected in less than two years.

The history about the MGC was unknown for me until when I started it so I have used a lot of time to research the basic history and have not, yet, focused on the personal histories.

It?s not my main collection, so most of the time is spent on my other topics.

Would appreciate research tips, sites, links etc.

Kjell

Awesome collection, Kjell!

And I must confess - at risk of starting a series of semi-political posts - one of my first thoughts was "Gee, he must live in the US." because I wasn't aware on anywhere in Europe where position of a Machine Gun was legal! And you had two? Wow!

Peter

(from Canada, where we can't own machine guns either)

Thanks Peter!

As I have explained under another topic, I?s getting more and more difficult, (close to impossible) to buy a fully automatic gun today. Fortunately I?m still allowed to own the one I got. I don?t have more than one Vickers, but I have a fully automatic Maxim from 1943. I used to have an Australian, unused in the box, but I sold it to a friend. Will try to post some picture, It?s a very nice gun!

I?m not sure how it?s today but Finish an Swedish collectors also was/is allowed to own fully automatic guns.

Kjell

Hi kjell,

Great specialized collection. Thank you for sharing.

My main interest is in the WW1 Campaign in German East Africa and noticed that the MGC was given the Battle Honour E. Africa.

Since information is hard to obtain on this campaign, I was wondering what information you may have on the MGC activities in East Africa.

All the best,

Jean-Paul (JP)

Hello Jean-Paul

My pleasure, I?m glad you liked it!

I?m sorry but I have no information about MGC activities in East Africa, other then the little you can find on the web.

Maybe somebody reading this have some information to share?

Kjell

Excellent collect, Kjell!

I am amazed!

Thanks for the inspiration!

Andy

Hello Andy

Thanks for the kind words!

Kjell

Hi,Good morning,Kjell !! How nice,WOW!!Great & beautiful Display

Hello Naoki

I happy you liked it !

Sorry for getting back to you so late! Somehow I was not notified about your replay, and I have?t looked at the topic since then.

Kjell

Hi Kjell

What a fantastic assault rifle you have shown . Only once I have seen a stutmgewehr at a local gun show and that was for display purposes only. IN the States they are extremely difficult to find as I believe you need to have special license to obtain such a weapon for they can be used as automatic. In Europe are these guns & MP 40's common to find? Are the shows in Norway filled with these weapons & not so costly? Enjoyed seeing your sturmgewehr, always nice to view an orginal... Thanks

Sincerely

Brian

Hello Brian

Glad you enjoyed the guns!

Sturmgewehs are not so common in Norway. I have seen a few left from the war but the were almost impossible to get before the end of DDR. The one I got was picked out from a small pile, 25-30, coming from Germany in the mid 90?s. They were a mixed lot of Stgw 43, Stgw 44 and MP 44?s. I have seen some for sale the last years but they get fewer and fewer. I have no idea what the price will be today, the last for sale was about $ 1200 - 1400 . I think I payed $ 750 - 800.

MP 40?s however, are very common, I don?t know any collectors who don?t have at least one. They were used by the Norwegian Army for a long time after the war and the by the National Guard (also MP 38?s). Some places they must have been in storages until late 80?s early 90?s. I sorry to tell, but tons of them went into the melting pot and was turned into nails, not far from where I live. Fortunately The National Defense Museum picked out MP 38?s, special and nice MP 40?s. Some are now sold to members of the Nation Gun Historical Society. Unfortunately deactivated. About $ 500 to members (also MP 38?s). The price for a MP 40 on the market about $ 1200.

Kjell