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      Unmarked PAB.

      in Germany: Third Reich: Wehrmacht Medals, Decorations & Awards

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      Hello Ned,

      Thank you! That was very helpful.

      I bought the badge from Ulric of England way back in 1995/1996. Was worried that it might be a fake as it doesn't look like any of the PABs commonly seen.

      Would I be correct in saying that it's a bronze PAB? Also, does "Vienna design" mean that it produced by an Austrian or Vienna based manufacturer and are all similar designs/variants called "Type 5"? 

       

      Hi Fariz,

      It's hard to say what grade this badge is as there's no real finish left to tell, but it might be a silver one as there seems to be a little bit of  lacquer, possibly silver, left on it.

      The name "Vienna Design" was coined because at least two manufacturers who used this generic design, the last type produced, were from that area, namely Souval and Orth. Many but not all of the other users have so far remained unknown. The Type 5 design itself is crude compared to many earlier types, but it was designed for ease of production of solid zinc badges by manufacturers who did not have the ability or facilities to produce their own dies or design. Also at this time during the war the requirement for more awards cheaply produced was vastly increased, causing overall quality to suffer compared to earlier produced examples.

      Basically all Type 5 badges by makers known or unknown are more or less identical, on the obverse side at least, although a couple of makers like R.R.S. and to a lesser degree Hobacher did alter the grass foreground area on some of there badges. The reverse sides vary in set ups to a wide degree, at the later stages of the war virtually any kind of hardware can be found mixed and matched by many makers just to complete an order.

      There's a lot more to it, but that's a basic resume as I see it.

      Regards, Ned.

       

       

       

       

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      Unmarked PAB.

      in Germany: Third Reich: Wehrmacht Medals, Decorations & Awards

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      Hi Fariz,

      It's a type 5.10 Panzerkampfabzeichen or "Vienna Design" late war example by a so far unknown maker that goes by the name "Scooped Out Flat Back" in collector circles. Considering the mass of type 5 badges around, this one is fairly uncommon. They can be found with a quality Brennlack coating that has often stood the test of time well, or like this one, a basic wash finish that has disappeared over the years.

      Regards, Ned.

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      JFS Grade IV (75) GAB.

      in Germany: Third Reich: Wehrmacht Medals, Decorations & Awards

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      That's right Jock. I wouldn't choose militaria as an investment that would more or less guarantee a good return, I prefer property leases and suchlike for that. My collection is purely focussed on the historical element, that's what really interests me. Although I do admit to buying the best I can, it's very rare these days to find a real bargain, and my main concerns are whether a piece is genuine or not. For me the research of these pieces of brass, aluminium and zinc, real or fake, is the real draw that interests me above any monetary value. I also enjoy helping other collectors out when I can, that's a really big part of the enjoyment for me. I can afford to do it so I choose to follow that course.:)

       

      Regards, Ned.

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      JFS Grade IV (75) GAB.

      in Germany: Third Reich: Wehrmacht Medals, Decorations & Awards

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      Ned,

       

      Nice looking badge, did it cost you your soul?

       

      Jock :)

      ​Hi Jock, hope you're well mate!;)

       

      It certainly wasn't cheap, but after taking advice from some other collectors who are more au fait with higher end awards I was told the price was good as these are currently getting harder to find in any condition. I don't plan on selling it yet, in fact in over 12 years collecting I've never sold or traded a single item in my collection as I try to buy the best I can rather than upgrade.

       

      Cheers, Ned.

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