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Willi,
It sounds like a must have for Lifesaving medal collectors! Does it have a lot of photos? In color?
Thank you for the referral!
Regards
Paul
Paul, this is right, a fantastic book by a well known author who has been an Imperial German collector for decades (made a fantastic book about Oldenburg orders/medals years ago), pics are not color.
Regards,
Karl
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WOW!!! only 220+ winners?!?! Maybe I will contact the seller?!
Thank you all for the information and help in this matter
Regards
Paul
Hi Paul,
there is a new book on the market about German lifesaving medals: Friedhelm Beireiss, Rettungsmedaillen deutscher Staaten 1782 - 1918, Verlag Patzwall, Norderstedt 2006, ISBN 3-931533-06-9.
I have got the info from this book.
Karl
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Thank you all for your help in this one. For a post war medal, he is asking a lot for it.
It is an attractive looking medal!
This is not a post war medal, it was awarded between 1918 and 1933. Total awards number was 183 plus another 44 winners of the 1st model got it in exchange against their older medal. In my opinin the sales price is very low.
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Beautiful piece Chris! I can count on one hand the number of these I've seen offered in the last 10 years...
One can see a lot of these medals still today especially in Bavaria.
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Hi Willi,
This bar was already discussed on another German forum:
http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/thread.php?threadid=67918
Major Rohe:
Geboren 1875, 1894 "Freiwillig-Gemeiner" 18. IR Prinz Ludwig Ferdinand, Febr. 1899 Leutnant. 1901/02 Einsatz in China, danach altes Regiment, dann 1905 - 1908 S?dwest-Afrika. Wieder altes Regiment, dort 1911 Bef?rderung zum Hauptmann. 1914 - 1916 1. WK, dann wegen schwere Verwundung ausgeschieden, das K?nig-Ludwig-Kreuz wurde verliehen, weil seine Schwester eine Stiftung unter seinem Namen mit einem gr??eren Geldbetrag ins Leben rief. Ab 1918 wieder in der bayerischen Armee aktiv, danach bis 1920 Reichswehr. Dann bis 1939 keine Informationen, wird dann im Winter 1939 Kommandeur eines Baubataillons mit Dienstgrad Major mit Einsatz in Frankreich, knapp 65 Jahre alt, erh?lt die Spange zum EK 2. Klasse am 4.7.1940, danach Ruhestand und stirbt im Jahre 1944.
Ciao,
Claudio
Thank you!
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Assuming that is the 1905 Luitpold...
possible, yes.
Likely, no.
There was exactly ONE officer with this combination of Orders and the quite rare double combatant China and Africa medals. I can even place him at Fouphing AND he was in Southwest Africa late.
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I cannot confirm the Ludwigkreuz (though his awards in 1916 and the date of his BMV4XmKr support it) and
that EK2 Spange when he was born in 1875 is rather unlikely.
The only possible officer was also a senior civil servant after leaving the army-- and there is no Treudienstkreuz on here. (Though possibly he was purged before 1938 and so did not receive one.)
Possible, yes.
Likely, no.
But the more I ponder this, the more I think that unlikely or not, it very likely IS the original medal bar of the ONLY officer I think it could have belonged to.
What does the BACK of the medal bar look like? THAT is what will tell is whether the bar is a new fraud or not.
Could you please post the officer's name?
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I would like to hear some opinions please about that medal bar. Can it be correct?[attachmentid=47838]
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This Week's Ribbon Bar Fakes!
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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The evidence for the assortion that it was Rohe's medal bar is his personal military record which still is in the Bavarian War Archive in Munich. I own a copy of the award document for the 1939 bar to the Iron Cross.