Robin Lumsden

However, the men do appear to be wearing the little enamel membership badge on their tunics..................

Thanks.

The top photo was taken before any of these regulation insignia appeared.................

The photo will go well with this flag I have..............exactly the same type.

Here's a closer view of the flag. The armbands are early types..............before the woven version was produced. See how the flag party have steel helmets.

I finally managed to get this original photo from eBay. I first saw it many years ago, but someone else beat me to it then. It is one of the earliest photos (c. 1924) of the Wehrwolf flag being paraded.

Hello Robin,

Leser used to hallmark only MVOs not the MVKs. Material used for your cross was coppered bronze.

Zinc versions look much differently and were only made by Deschler (awarded in paperbox etui):

OK - thanks.

But...........where the gilding has worn, it looks grey (not bronze) underneath.

It's gilt zinc. No maker mark.

Reverse.

Nice! :cheers:

Hello, nice addition to your collection. Etui comes from Deschler however the cross itself was made by Jacob Leser. It's a 3rd (and last) type from this maker made from 1916.

Regards Viliam.

Thanks! That's appreciated. :cheers:

Reverse.......

Latest addition to the collection.............

I'm still interested to see the back of the item!

I'll take a picture the next time the camera is out.

I have it out about twice a year!

More buckles...............

Can we see the back of the item?

What are the dimensions?

It's about 2cm high with edge tabs on the back. Hollow stamped brass.

I think it's from a buckle...........the 'blank' brass type which could have interchangeable badges (e.g. vet groups). I've seen this type of Wehrwolf TK before............Assmann belt buckle, I think.

Other (slight) possibility is that it's from the centre of a cap wreath............again, like the early vet types.

From the centre of a belt buckle ????

Or cap badge ???

Some more skulls and 'stuff'..........

I wondered about that too, Stefan.

Could be cloth.............or bent metal.

The shape of the part shown below (red circle) is interesting. :rolleyes:

This guy can't wait.

s***d( 109)

He'll be the big loser, I think.

SS beret skull to compare...............

Again............a metal TK.

Small ebay piece I just got "for the child in us all"

Nice!

The reverse of a REAL Kokampf TK badge should look something like this..............

Its the same as with The variation FW skull way back on the thread, no matter how well it is made, my stomache says "No!"

Oh, ye of little faith !!!! :cheers:

Another.............

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Robin, is it a put together grouping or a mix of good and bad? I believe the wound badge might be suspect but the EKs look good to me. The ribbon bar and eppalettes may be good too. What are your thoughts on the skull and cuff title? Have you ever seen a real one to compare it too?

Don. Sorry for the late reply.

It's a put together group, IMHO.

I saw an original Kampfwagen title about 10 years ago, and it was hand-sewn with thin lettering. Like the one in the book shown.

The skull is definitely duff.

It's based on the SS beret skull (not the other way round).

Original Kampfwagen skulls were always in metal.

Here are some pix............