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    Robin Lumsden

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    1. Robin,

      I'm taking a stab at this.............the keys and crown are/were the heraldic emblem of the Lord Chancellor. John Russell, who was the Bishop of Rochester (1476-1480), and then Bishop of Lincoln (1480-1494), was also Lord Chancellor and he died in 1494. He accepted the office of Lord Chancellor from Richard III on 13 May 1483. I'm guessing that these are his arms showing the office of Lord Chancellor and either his personal arms, or his arms as the bishop of Lincoln.

      Mike.

      Thanks for that information. You could be right...............if no-one else comes up with anything more concrete, the eagle badge is yours.

      What I'm really after is another illustration from somewhere showing the same coat of arms, with a positive identification.

      Thanks again. :cheers:

    2. I am pretty sure the hat indicates it is the arms of an Anglican bishop. The papal tiara or Catholic bishop's hat are depicted different in heraldry. The left hand side is possibly the coat of arms of his diocese, with the right hand side being his personal coat of arms. This is a common way of depicting arms for bishops and archbishops. If you can find a British town with the left hand coat of arms you might be pretty close.

      Thanks Paul.

      The 'hat' is definitely a mitre. (Not the triple crown, Chris!)

      I have already tried various combinations of church arms, and those of colleges and universities in England, with no success.

      I know a wee bit about heraldry (I actually designed the coat of arms shown below, under the guidance of the Lord Lyon) and I was beginning to wonder if the arms on the box might be some sort of imaginative contrivance. :banger:

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