Robin Lumsden

Here's the back.

The method of construction, with hand stitching, seems very similar to the official Guard Pioneer badges.

The straps relate to the Wuerttemberg Army Corps, whose state colours were of course black and red.

The black and red on the skull may be coincidental.

Minenwerfer (other than Heuschkel post-1918) didn't wear skulls, so far as I know.

I'm stumped.

Here's an odd skull.

Not like the official pattern for guard pioneers.

Apparently came from a German house clearance. (The attached shoulder straps may have come with it.)

Anyone any ideas?

I saw about 6 of these flags at the MAX in 1999.

All identical and all fake, IMHO.

Chris.

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I don't know why Allach never produced their own figure of the Bamberger Reiter, given the figure's significance to the SS.

Himmler always thought the figure represented Henry the Fowler (which it most probably didn't) and, as we all know from the headline here,.........................

And lastly, the Bamberger Reiter in oak finish................above Wewelsburg Castle. :rolleyes:

Bamberger Reiter in porcelain again..............

Terracotta Bamberger................

The Bamberger Reiter is really quite elegant..................

Julleuchter and friends..............

The Julleuchter sits below an SS 'Tree of Life' tapestry........................

Better picture of the black one...................

The equestian figure on the table is the Bamberger Reiter................Rosenthal, not Allach. In the background is a black Allach leuchter.

The little candle-holder has hearts and hagall-runes painted on it. Same motifs as on the Julleuchter and Julteller.

Here's some of my Allach, alongside other things.................

Fake v original, for comparison..............

Looks like the eagle from the grip of an SA/SS/NSKK dagger, that has been turned into a lapel pin.

This may be relevant......................

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php...60&p=474573

So . . . am I understanding this right . . . ?

Each relevant body (terms intentionally undefined) was simply given a number of medals to distribute: "You, the ___, have been allotted (by some magic forumla) __ Golden Jubilee Medals. Give them out to whoever you think deserves them."

Is this right?

Hello Ed.

Not quite right.

Taking the police as an example, the qualifying criterion was to have been a serving police officer for at least 5 years up to the date of the jubilee.

Each Force was asked to supply a list of officers who fell into that group.

If the Force nominated, say 200 officers, they would get 200 medals to dish out.

That's how it worked for the police.

I think the other services were pretty much the same.

The likelyhood of being able to compile an accurate list is not very high on this one. I doubt that many services who were entitled to award their personnel have kept a definitive list, compounded by the lack of naming is a recipe for disaster for future researchers.

Also.....................Personnel Departments (oooops, sorry..............HR Departments) are now run by civvies, who couldn't give a toss about keeping records on these sorts of things.

Ignoring the constraints of data protection........................

Oh, if only we could!

I can see where your coming from but what if.......a guy was who had 2 years service in the police, but 20 years service in the TA? Got a medal from the army,but not the police, or indeed visa versa? There are endless possibilities.

A chap in my old Force got the medal twice..............one medal from the police and one from the RNLI, as he had served many years on the lifeboats in his spare time.

I wonder how he wears two of them?

This one's dated 1919.

An ex-hussar, now in the Freikorps.

See the collar insignia......................

Looks like they got the date on the photo wrong.

I think it should be 1919....................not 1916.

While I have never seen anyone WEARING two of them in period photographs...........

Franz von Salomon wore both crosses together. Not too clear on this photo, but there's a good picture in one of the Angolia books showing both being worn at once.