Robin Lumsden

I cannot see anything wrong with it!

Ditto.

A lovely K&Q.

Best of all the RK makers, IMHO.

Nice and chunky.

...............were tagged as SS, SA or NSKK .............

That's the crucial bit of the whole thing.

Ahhhh.... the Jocks... figured they could save a few shilling if they made the Tipstaff cheaper did they ? ;-)

The best things come in small packages!

(With one exception).

These were issued NAMED, right?

Wrong...............unnamed.

Too much bother for the powers that be to name them, I suppose.

I had the dubious privilege of handing out about 200 of these things to officers in the division I was serving in at the time.

I can't actually remember who gave me mine.

Probably just kept one back for myself.

Nice to see.

In the old days, detectives also carried very short truncheons.....................no truncheon pocket in civvies!

Nice item.

I love these things.

Is there any difference between Victorian era mainland U.K. police uniforms and those worn in the vast formerly ink-colored parts of the map? Aside from makers' labels, would a Superintendent's cap like that above have been the same everywhere, or were there different buttons or local insignia to tell them apart?

They were pretty much all different, Rick.

Countless variations depending on locality.

Even today, there's no real standardisation...................a Supt's cap in England is totally different from a Scottish one.

Rank badges are pretty standard, although the rank terminology has changed over the years. A Chief Inspector, for example, was formerly known as a Lieutenant.

.............Forfarshire ( where is it exactly?).

Just to the north of Dundee, in Scotland.

Forfarshire is now part of Tayside and comes under Tayside Police. Here it is today...........

http://www.tayside.police.uk/whereanguss1.php

You have some wonderful items there.

Cheers,

Robin.

Hello Mervyn.

The following 2 links might be of passing interest to you.

I had the dubious task of writing/editing our Force History and setting up our museum (in my own time, of course!) before I retired last year.

http://www.fife.police.uk/Default.aspx?page=1813

http://www.fife.police.uk/Default.aspx?page=2864

A nice lid, the City of London one.

I prefer City of Berlin, myself...........................

I found my Golden Jubilee a couple of hours ago, whilst looking in the garage............

Robin

Can you let us in on why (without giving aid and comfort to the fakers)? Not my area or interest but I'm a firm believer that you can never have too many books or too much information.

Peter

Hello Peter.

The quality of the embroidery is very poor in comparison to originals..............esp. the General's tabs. The bullion borders are also too wide..............typical of older fakes.

The TK tab isn't as bad, but it's still not good enough.

Compare it with this one...................

It's all fake, I'm afraid.

What would a Health reserve unit do?

The National Hospital Service Reserve (NHSR) was founded in 1949 and staffed by volunteers from hospital professions, such as doctors, nurses and first aiders. The NHSR was part of the Civil Defence services first established in the 1930s in preparation for air raids that were expected to be part of any future war. After the Second World War, the emphasis shifted to coping with the aftermath of a nuclear attack. The NHSR closed in 1968 when the Civil Defence services were disbanded.

NHSR = National Hospital Service Reserve.

Apparently the party allowed the 25 year cross to party cadres killed either in bombing raids or in military service as honor awards. This was decreed in April, 1944.

I'd never heard of that, but if it's true then surely that must have meant that many thousands of 25 year crosses must have been awarded...............even if only on paper.

Better picture of Schepmann's bar.

I've seen another photo of a bar like this being worn, but I can't remember where. :banger:

Please remember......................

These crosses were awarded not only for long service in the NSDAP itself, but also for long service in the uniformed organisations affiliated to the NSDAP, i.e. the SA, SS, NSKK etc. etc.

There was no need to be an NSDAP member to hold membership of the SS, for example. Most SS men were NSDAP members, but not all of them were.

So a long serving SS man (1920s-1945) could qualify for these 3 crosses without ever having held NSDAP membership at all.

Unlikely, I'll grant you. But theoretically possible.

That NSDAP bar is a real beauty!

You had to be someone like this to have all three......................

Hello Al.

Welcome to a fellow ex-cop!

It will depend on the age of the uniform.

Numbers are usually reallocated when officers retire, so there will have been several officers with that number over the years.

If I were you, I'd email the London Metropolitan Archives (who hold old City of London Police personnel records) and ask them for what info they can provide..............explaining why you want it.

Here's the link..........

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corporation...s_and_archives/

If the uniform is an old one (say, pre-1950s), I don't think they'll have any Data Protection issues in supplying the information you want, if they have it.

Neither.

It's Vincent Price.

As I recall, the first pattern Luftwaffe dagger could be worn by all aircrew, irrespective of rank.

Hence 'Fliegerdolch', as opposed to the later 'Offizierdolch'.

Postwar...............but here's a chap from Minenwerfer Sturmdetachment Heuschkel, c. March 1919.

Here are the other two a bit closer.....................best I can do.

Photo was taken on the Koenigsplatz in Munich. The Propylaen is in the background.