Robin Lumsden

Wunderbar Husar !!

Steve.

I'd LOVE to see pix of the hussar one ..........................

What a fantastic talent you have !!

Tried to post explanatory links, but can't seem to post links here now.

Hardy.

I am impressed by your knowledge.

I wonder which one of these myriad outfits was selected to wear the very rare 'black one' !!

Now away to get my tin hat in anticipation of Chris' assured response !!

Mervyn.

The headdress here is a crown.

The Bamberger's points have been broken off through time.

It should look like this one, on the related 'Magdeburger Reiter'.

Both the Bamberger and Magdeburger statues had a very special relevance to the Third Reich .............. and the SS in particular ................ which I won't bore you with here !!

Interesting advert !! Thanks for posting.

Jock.

You did well there ................. VERY well.

These things are not easy to find.

A couple of Hussar Attilas without the bow ..........................

You need a snipe programme !!

Nice find, Jock !!

Here's mine .......................

................. wore 'bow'-type ribbons.

Yes. That's the correct order of precedence.

While the SS-DA was only for service in the SS-VT, SS-TV, JS and W-SS, Himmler wore it and he was in none of those!

Conversely, he was Chief of the German Police from 1936-45, but never wore the Police Long Service Award.

Heydrich, on the other hand, wore the Police award .................. for much shorter service in the Police than Himmler.

Strange, arcane old world.

From a Waffen-SS Officer who served in the Balkans ................ the final ribbon is that of the Croatian Order of the Crown of King Zvonimir.

Love the shoe !!

Prussian ................... sorry. No better pix.

Irish.

Ha !!

This militaria lark is always a learning game.

I've been at it for almost half a century, and I still feel dumbfounded at times.

But, at the end of the day, It's just a hobby.

Today, this is far, far more important for me .....................

Not a death's head.

Just the standard French artillery badge.

The design also derived from that of the NSB Internees Medallion of 1941 ...............

The NSB referred to this award as the 'Oostlandkruis', not the 'Mussert Cross'.

It was not a bravery award.

It was the NSB equivalent of the Eastern Front Medal, i.e.to be awarded to all NSB combatants on the Eastern Front.

The design was based on that of The Order of Orange-Nassau with Swords ................

These pictures are also relevant.

A screen shot from a film made in 1968 and the cover of a book published in 1969.

Both show the cased 'Type 2' Cross.

Not conclusive by any means, but evidence that this type was around as early as 1968.

Smithee.

I think this picture came from one of the 'other' forums.

The problem with comparing any similar enamelled items is that each one has to be hand-painted with molten glass, so no two are ever identical.

Personally, I would give the one deemed to be a 'fake' in the photo a sporting chance.

Hello Jock.

That's why I put the word 'accepted' in speech marks !!

I agree with you that these things are all a matter of personal experience and opinion and that there is no such animal as an 'expert' in militaria.

Everyone can get it wrong. I have, many times.

The type 1 is an 'accepted' version also, which is very hard to find, but a photo of it appeared amongst a group of known copies in the old 'Heraldry of War' book published way back in the 1970s.

Both types compare favourably when it comes down to construction techniques measured against other contemporary awards and badges.

John.

Let me know when you find one !!

Paul.

Uncased ones go for about 200 Euros.

They are scarce, but not rare.