Robin Lumsden

Tom.

The two badges and the ID disc all came from a Hamburg house clearance.

Here's an old photo of the group from my files ..................

It's probably a better development of this old fake ....................

I think it's trying to be one of these .....................

Just found this one ................... marked 'L/58' from around 1965.

These early Souval copy RKs were based on the Juncker originals.

Thanks Tony.

Good question.  Probably just due to tradition. 

I have a 1911 Scottish Police Coronation Medal which just has 'P.C. J. Todd' on the rim ....................... no Force mentioned back then either.

Each Force submits applications for it's eligible medal recipients on an annual basis, and the medals are duly delivered inscribed to the Force for local distribution.  I suppose the 'powers that be' didn't deem it necessary to inscribe the name of the Force that the medals were being delivered to.

Also ...................... it COSTS more to inscribe the name of the Force as well as the name of the recipient. 

Thanks all for the comments.

A pleasure to share a small part of my family history.

Not only the medals changed over time ..................... the cap badges got bigger and better too !!   

And the day before retirement in 2008.  Hallelujah !!

Feeling the pressure as a Chief Inspector around 2005 .................

Yours truly as an innocent young Sergeant in 1987 ....................

Family tradition ....................... grandfather, father and son.

Grandfather in his later days .................

My grandfather in his early police days, not long after the end of the First World War, where he was severely wounded at the Battle of Arras in 1917 ....................

My grandfather's medals ..............................

And shown beside my private purchase 'wearing' copies on the right .................................. of poorer quality.

Mine .......................................

Rhodium plating shines like a mirror.

I was awarded mine in 2000 and it still looks as good as the day it was presented ................... no tarnishing at all.

Rhodium plating was also used on the rims of the 1939 Iron Cross !!

As a point of interest, my grandfather was awarded the GVIR medal when it was instituted and my father was awarded the EIIR medal in 1975. 

Both are in unplated nickel silver.

So the rhodium plating seems to have been introduced well into the present Queen's reign.  I would guess not long before the year 2000.

The GVIR medal is MUCH rarer than the EIIR one, so should be worth a lot more, IMHO.

I suppose Police medals in general just aren't in that much demand by collectors these days.

No variations in design.

Early ones were in unplated nickel silver, while the current ones have rhodium plating.

Chip.

I agree .................. not a good one.

Another photo showing a badge placed ................... but not sewn !!

Dated this time ............... 1917.

TK looks very white !!

Wonderful work.

Thanks Paul.

Few more pix ................

Shield shape is typical 'Otto Hupp', 

Agreed.

Shows how much the recipients valued this particular badge.

Not bidding this time Stef  ................ academic interest only !!